If he was definitely going it would be a done deal. Guess is that he is maybe seeing what the interest is for him.

All that being said, there are very very very few Duncan Robinson's. A player that can leave a d3 or d2 program and can go produce at a high level d1 program is rare. And add to that, go to a major d1 program and an elite academic school and perform any where close to where they did at their present school is rare.

The old saying, the grass is not always greener, clearly applies.

Everyone hear knows what I think of Shane Regan, but at the next level, guessing D2 is out for him, he is not going to be anywhere near as good as he was at Wesleyan. He will be constantly guarded by bigger, stronger and more athletic players. He will also have to guard bigger, stronger and more athletic players.
Look at the NESCAC last year and the players that left to D1, yes they contributed but none at the same level at their previous school.

Henry Vetter while taller will have same issues.

Vetter has chance to do something very few have done and that is back to back d3 championships, win 3 NESCAC championships in a row, maybe win the regular season, win NESCAC player of the year, 3 times NESCAC first team, maybe d3 first team all american and maybe d3 player  of the year.
Most if not all of these are not going to be attainable for either Regan or Vetter at the next level.

So many players in D1 portal and many don't find a home. There must be a percentage out there and I bet it isn't great.

Quote from: nescac1 on April 04, 2025, 01:49:16 PMHampton Sanders is entering the transfer portal with two years of eligibility.  With rumors that Klatsky is likely headed to D1 (rumored now as an assistant at Florida) plus NYU now set to lose its top seven guys without a large pool of 5th years guys to pull from as a potential replacements, NYU may have one of the most dramatic drop-offs we've seen for a team that made a national title game ...

Agree and Sanders at the final 4 was by far the NYU best player and was going to be mvp until trinity came back and won.

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on April 04, 2025, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: nescac1 on April 04, 2025, 01:49:16 PMHampton Sanders is entering the transfer portal with two years of eligibility.  With rumors that Klatsky is likely headed to D1 (rumored now as an assistant at Florida) plus NYU now set to lose its top seven guys without a large pool of 5th years guys to pull from as a potential replacements, NYU may have one of the most dramatic drop-offs we've seen for a team that made a national title game ...

I'm too lazy to look, but I'd like to know if there was ever a team to win the Naty, get the #1 preseason ranking the following year and then miss the tournament. Point had a big drop-off after they won the 2015 Naty. They finished 14-12.

This year I believe Trine was preseason number 1 and didn't make tournament

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 24, 2025, 10:19:04 AMWe're told it will be Thursday - Saturday for the rounds of 8 and 4 in Fort Wayne (March 19 and 21).  The final will be played two weeks later in Indianapolis on the day between the D1 semis and final, along with the D2 final.  That will be April 5th, Easter Sunday!

So the 2 final teams are going to be off for 2 weeks before they play the final? That is just plain stupid! NCAA at its best. This is just another of many reasons why the ncaa won't be around in another 10 years.

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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 19, 2025, 09:03:16 PMMan, I said it on X and I'll say it on here. I really dislike the Thursday/Saturday format. If I attend, it's an extra day of vacation I have to use and it's an extra hotel night. Don't tell me it's for the student-athletes. If you're a lower seed in the Big Ten tournament, you could play FIVE days IN A ROW. I don't know the behind-the-scenes activities of the teams, maybe they have activities, tournament commitments, tours they do on the off-day, but playing Friday evening and Saturday, late afternoon is the same thing as some of the conference tournaments and even the first four rounds of the NCAA tournament. I'm so glad next year, if I go, they'll have the four quarterfinal games on Friday and the 2 semifinal games on Saturday. I suppose if I don't have a horse in the race, I can just go to the semis, save a night in the hotel and watch the final on TV. I don't talk to the players, but maybe some prefer to play Friday and Saturday because they still have the adrenaline from the previous night and don't want to cool off for a full day. Yes, injuries are unfortunate and maybe the NCAA wants the players to recover an extra day for the big game, but then they should do it for the other rounds as well. Off my soapbox. I'm done! Good luck to everyone.

It is about the student-athletes... because then they aren't gassed trying to recover for the biggest game of their careers. The entire point is to give them the time and space to recover from a hard fought semifinals and prepare for the finals, instead of a cram session and likely no recovery ahead of that game.

So yes, it is about the student-athletes. And it is about them also Thur/Sat because while they miss class time, they are still doing homework or taking exams if necessary - though seems more often then not schools are on spring break this week (not always, but most if not all four on the men's side were on break). And then they don't miss Monday classes coming back (which happens in soccer with whatever gender plays on Sunday).

The division decided to go this way so that championship games weren't decided on sheer luck of recovery or one player got over a twisted ankle better than another in 24 hours.

And don't compare to the Big 10... do you think it is actually about student-athletes there? Those students who are actually trying to get an education also have four or more tutors and academic people at their disposal on the trip they are making. It is a big money product there ... also the chances of a deep-seed going all the way through like that are slim and none almost every year. Look at how they treat their other tournaments and you will see something far more akin to DIII.

Yes, I got it confirmed from the committee that next year will be Thursday/Saturday. I suspect his is actually because that is how Fort Wayne had the facility scheduled more than anything else. This is the extra year they lost in 2020 and I don't believe when it was given to them it was actually decided the combined-championships were taking place. So likely, the Thursday/Saturday schedule was set prior to the schedule changing to quarters and semis. I know conversations about moving the All-Star game to the middle day in general, but especially next year fall on it not happening due to the staffing for the arena not being scheduled or in the case of next year, they likely already have other events to deal with in the arena (not to mention, four teams getting shoot arounds on that off day).

For the record, I love the day off in between because I can get better prepared without sacrificing even more sleep. Yeah, it sucks from a work perspective having to take even more time off or missing something on the day before games, but being able to recover and prep is valuable.

So anyway... as much as you may not like it (you are in a small minority), this is actually about the student-athletes. They have all responded in multiple sports very positively about the experience of an extra day off.

An aside, the issue that needs to be addressed in DIII is actually how teams travel surrounding these events, especially those who lose in the first game of a weekend. The stories I've heard in the last few years are embarrassing.

Sheesh, first post back in a LONG time... and I went on and on.. sorry.

An article from last summer says next year's d3 finals will be played on Sunday not sure when semi finals will be played but it doesn't sound like a Thursday Saturday event.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2024-07-11/mens-basketball-committee-approves-single-site-2026-divisions-i-ii-and-iii?amp

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 23, 2025, 08:14:36 PMWho's taking Will Dorion's spot? Obviously his numbers didn't jump out at you, but definitely a key player. He played 33 minutes in each Final Four game, so he was important being on the floor.

Cosgrove could go 3 different ways. If he wants to keep the same type of lineup then Ayles steps in. Could go with Berry, but that would have 4 scorers out there and only 1 ball, and 2 guards under 6 feet and not the strongest defensive lineup. Lastly he could go back to a more traditional lineup and start either Jordan or McDonald.
They lose 2 of the top 10 in minutes played. I think Norris has a very good shot of getting one of those spots. The other is up for grabs.

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 22, 2025, 05:16:28 PMWith all due respect to the members of the staff that interact on this website, because they're great, but the D3hoops.com All-American list omitting BOTH Henry Vetter and Hank Morgan while somehow including Jarrel Okorougo is one of the most bizarre postseason awards editions I've ever seen.

And yes, I am aware that as I write this, Okorougo has been the best player on the floor in the national championship game.


EDIT: Morgan on second team, guess I can't read.

Okorougo unique player as he guards the other teams best player almost every game and then is scoring double digits and rebounding. Don't have an issue with him on it. To me it shows they, the voters, are looking at everything and not just the highest scorers or players taking the most shots.
Okorougo was the best in the final 4, no question. Vetter huge shots at end, but Okorougo kept trinity in the game. It's a team game and Trinity just has so many key players but you can easily make the argument that Okorougo is their most important player. As was Smith last year.

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 22, 2025, 05:16:28 PMWith all due respect to the members of the staff that interact on this website, because they're great, but the D3hoops.com All-American list omitting BOTH Henry Vetter and Hank Morgan while somehow including Jarrel Okorougo is one of the most bizarre postseason awards editions I've ever seen.

And yes, I am aware that as I write this, Okorougo has been the best player on the floor in the national championship game.


EDIT: Morgan on second team, guess I can't read.
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Yes there is no ending without Okorougo dominating the game.

Let's go Trinity, bring it home and for NESCAC league!!!

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 21, 2025, 04:31:37 PMIt will be interesting if Zay Freeney plays tomorrow. If you didn't hear or see it apparently he hit a Wash U player in the groin and it was pretty obvious and intentional. He was called for a flagrant 2 after a review and was ejected from the game. I don't know the rules, but I'm curious if the NCAA could suspend him for the championship game as well. Also, if the coach feels it was intentional maybe he could suspend Freeney himself.

Don't know if correct, but I was told he is only out for the last game. It's reviewable to change but doubt they are going to do that.

I think from far away the perception was BCG was the biggest piece, but last year it was Smith and this year it has been Lazarre. Both do it on both ends and both are clutch.

In the end, both years they just have so much talent 1-10, players play to their roles. During games roles players step up.

Quote from: nescac1 on March 19, 2025, 11:21:37 AMJumbo, I agree that Tufts looks loaded next year but also, barring any player defections, Trinity has to be a clear one and Tufts a clear two, given how dominant Trinity has been in the league (and vs. Tufts) for two years running now.  If by some chance Regan returns to Wesleyan for a fifth year, then they are right there with Tufts as well.  If he does not, the number three spot in NESCAC looks WIDE open next season ... no one else really looks like a top 25 team on paper, but someone will surely emerge as a contender. 

100% agree. Trinity returns top 8 out of 10 players. Have no idea who they are recruiting but their biggest weakness is a true big a 6'7" or bigger. But they have done quite well without one. Besides that they are loaded with depth at every position and will have 4 seniors that have all played a ton, 3 of them for 3 years and the 4th Lazarre might be the best overall player on the team. 2 juniors, one who doesn't start and would start on just about any other team League next year. A freshman in Ayles who is going to be a very good player and Jordan the transfer from Pepperdine can only get better.
Tufts will be very good as well, but have to be considered preseason #2 until they can beat Trinity, who I think they play at home next year.
Wesleyan all depends on Regan, if he comes back they are top 3. I like Colby for 4th. Williams tons of talent but doesn't win. After that anybody's guess. Hamilton loses a ton, Amherst and Middlebury the same. Conn has Espinosa, but loses guard. Bates and Bowdoin should both be better, question is how much better.

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2025, 06:27:13 PMNot that it really matters but last week would've been the time to take that victory lap - barring a really special season by someone in the GNAC or MASCAC (not impossible), the Region 1 POY is almost definitely going to be the NESCAC POY every year now that the NEWMAC, LEC, and CNE are in Region 2. No one in the NESCAC that isn't player of the year is going to win it and most non conference coaches will probably default to the same line of thinking that Ryan just applied for Okorougo.

Yep agree!!!

Congrats to all that made it, but I think we could all do a better job than some that get to vote for these awards.
I do think Johnson deserved first team. My guess on Okorougo over Gyimesi, is that Okorougo shut him down twice.
On Dana Smith it was bad that he did not make second team NESCAC last year, just shows how voters don't always use the right criteria, he was trinity's best player last year, imo.
Also agree on Lazarre I think he is the second leading rebounder on Trinity as well and he is not close to his listed height of 6'2".

Trinity down 17-5 early. Couple possessions later it was 17-12. Second unit came in and continued momentum. Not sure there is a better 2nd unit in country. Last 34 minutes of game , catholic out scored 79 to 46. Trinity just defends.
Wesleyan Trinity part III should be fun to watch.
Still wish the would reseed final 4. Trinity vs NYU and Wash U vs Wesleyan. Give each conference a chance to play against each other in finals.
I got 3 out of 4 correct for final 4, tufts urgh!!!!