SLU is in for a very long season at this rate.  More horrible body language and horrific offense.  Best player looks like he'd rather be anywhere besides a basketball court. Could have double the rebounds but is standing with his hands down under the rim and allowing players half his size to get the board over him.  Freshmen with almost as many turnovers as the opponent total. 9 for their last 56 from three. They are taking half of the shot clock to get into their offensive sets. 

Has to be good recruiting on the part of Tufts, right?   They don't get to transfer up unless the talent is there.

What a joke schedule for my alma mater!   I guess this fits into the "lets have a good overall record even if we stink in the NESCAC so we can keep our jobs" category.  Embarrassing.

There have been several posts on the ODAC men's board about the combined non-conference record of all 12 men's teams, which is quite good. I just did a calculation of the same thing for the 12 ODAC women's teams and. if I added it up correctly, they are a combined 50-18, which is better than the men.

Quote from: tigerguy on Yesterday at 03:03:11 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2025, 03:36:18 PMI looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
2025 Update

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	17-24	Loss
2023	HSU	20-6	Win
2024	UMHB	22-29	Loss
2025	HSU	(27+pick six 7 = 34)-24	Win

How many other games were "closer than the final score"?

2021: Trinity's 13-3 loss to UMHB in first round. For 58 minutes Trinity held the national champs and #3 offense in the country to only two field goals (I think they missed a third). Down 6-3 with 2:13 left, Trinity held UMHB to what would have been an attempted field goal on 4th and 6 from Trinity's 22, which would have given Trinity one last drive to try and tie. Trinity's player jumped offsides attempting to block the field goal, making it 4th and 1, so UMHB went for it and scored on the ensuing play. I'm pretty sure Urban instructed them to let him score so they could get the ball back, but it made the final score look less close than the game was played. The entire game was a defense masterpiece by both squads.

That is probably the saltiest I have ever been when it comes to the unfair Texas-teams playoff matchups. Trinity's defense was probably the best in the program's history and #2 overall in D3 that year. Their offense was also very good, but it was Tucker Horn's first year as a starter and they couldn't get anything going against a great UMHB front.

After Trinity, UMHB steamrolled through the playoffs and put up 42 against #13 defense BSC, 49 against #12 defense Linfield, 24 against #22 defense UW-Whitewater, and 57 against Defending Champ North Central in the national championship. I know most people know all of this since the game was fairly recent, but I thank you for bringing up this painful topic to allow me to vent some more.

The Texas Sub Bracket is not fun but what makes it worst is it is usually followed by the Island School/ best of the West Region bracket.

Lets say Trinity beat UMHB that year, their prize, getting to play Birmingham Southern again. After that it was going to be Linfield or St. Johns who were the #1 and #3 in Region 6 followed by UWW the #2, all for the right to play the reigning national champion.

... which is why many of us consider these 1st and 2nd round games as the "Texas sub-bracket", the winner of which takes on the world.

Quote from: Mister36 on Yesterday at 05:46:46 PM

Quote from: art76 on Yesterday at 05:08:28 PMCouple of random playoff questions - on the NCAA official bracket site it has the times as TBA - but it looks like 3 Eastern time zone games and 5 Central time zone games. Does that mean these games are going to be spread out more during the day?

And more of a curiosity question, but is anyone keeping track of the updated NPI calculations of the remaining 16 teams? Or any of the playoff teams, for that matter - just to see how things fully shake out?

All the games are starting Noon local time: https://d3football.com/scoreboard/2025/composite?view=14

Thanx! - And I got it backward, 5 Eastern and 3 Central...

Quote from: art76 on Yesterday at 05:08:28 PMCouple of random playoff questions - on the NCAA official bracket site it has the times as TBA - but it looks like 3 Eastern time zone games and 5 Central time zone games. Does that mean these games are going to be spread out more during the day?

And more of a curiosity question, but is anyone keeping track of the updated NPI calculations of the remaining 16 teams? Or any of the playoff teams, for that matter - just to see how things fully shake out?

All the games are starting Noon local time: https://d3football.com/scoreboard/2025/composite?view=14

Quote from: VASoccerDad on December 01, 2025, 02:19:43 PM

Quote from: Ejay on December 01, 2025, 01:35:24 PMMy Junior year we won the ECAC tournament. It was awesome. My senior year, nobody wanted to play in it. It was a frustrating year and we just wanted it over. We made the finals and it was 38 degrees, raining, with 30 MPH winds. The absolute worst game to finish your career on. I was never so happy to be subbed off in the second half. With about 15 minutes to play, coach asked me to go back in. I said, "nah, I'm good. Let one of the younger kids play".

In the moment you were fine giving it up because of the weather, frustration, etc., but looking back on it (not now, but back then) would you want one more game? I would say probably yes...

I know in my case I would.

It's a great question, but I was honestly done. Took me almost 2 years before I touched a ball again.

What I would want though, is to redo that entire season. We were returning 10 starters, we had a successful preseason trip with all returning players (defeating a U20 National Team among others), and were firing on all cylinders. Things looked promising. So what does coach do? He throws 3 new players (1 freshmen, 2 transfers) into the starting lineup. There goes the chemistry. Things just spiraled from there.

Tigerfan- Thank you for those eloquent words but this game should be closer than 8 points! I have said it before and I'm saying it now that teams with "bigs" give us fits, especially if its on a night that we're not lighting it up from outside. You guys have size inside- inexperienced size yes but size nonetheless. Yes we have an experienced team and yes we're in Crenshaw where it can get so loud you have to scream at the person next to you to hear but you have an AWESOME coach and kids that listen. I heard today from a frat brother that as of this morning there were still about 200 tickets left so its not a sellout-yet! That typically means more tickets for you Tiggers! Its an early December game on a Wednesday night the week after Thanksgiving-I usually go myself but the timing doesent work for me so I'm watching on FloSports just like lots of other people.....but mark my words.....it will be closer than 8 points and you very well may win!