MBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[AO]

I'd like to see the MIAC restructure it's conference schedule to more of a ODAC-style one to give teams more than four or five non-conference games to play each year. Sadly, I think they are only hurting themselves as a conference in terms of getting extra bids with the double-round-robin set-up they have playing 20 of their 25 allotted (by NCAA rule) games in conference.

Yeah I totally agree, Dave. I wonder if the MIAC has ever considering lowering the amount of conference games for the men.

What does the ODAC do?

I know the NESCAC has 11 teams but they just play each team once in conference (10 conference games) to allow 15 non-conference games. It is nice to bolster SOS but I personally don't like this as much.

The women's MIAC play less conference games. Due to St. Kates, the women have 12 teams which would only leave 3 non-conference games on the schedule; however, they only play 18 conference games and rotate year-to-year on who they don't play twice (they play each team at least once). I like this option more and it would still free up a couple of non-conference games.

ODAC plays an unbalanced, hybrid schedule. A team will play half the conference in a double-round-robin and the other half only once. The rivals make sure to always play twice every season, but the rest rotates. You may play Team A and B twice for a few seasons and then rotate to playing them only once (rotating locations). Allows them to play everyone for tie-breaking scenarios and still get a good portion of their schedule set for non-conference. Also can help with the SOS as well.

I think that would be great for the MIAC.  Not dissimilar to the Big Ten basketball schedule, where you won't see every team twice per year.

I wish you could add 2 more non-conference games if you don't have a conference tournament.   Would make each conference game more meaningful and would give the MIAC teams a chance to play some fun teams in the non-conference.   

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I'd like to see the MIAC restructure it's conference schedule to more of a ODAC-style one to give teams more than four or five non-conference games to play each year. Sadly, I think they are only hurting themselves as a conference in terms of getting extra bids with the double-round-robin set-up they have playing 20 of their 25 allotted (by NCAA rule) games in conference.

Yeah I totally agree, Dave. I wonder if the MIAC has ever considering lowering the amount of conference games for the men.

What does the ODAC do?

I know the NESCAC has 11 teams but they just play each team once in conference (10 conference games) to allow 15 non-conference games. It is nice to bolster SOS but I personally don't like this as much.

The women's MIAC play less conference games. Due to St. Kates, the women have 12 teams which would only leave 3 non-conference games on the schedule; however, they only play 18 conference games and rotate year-to-year on who they don't play twice (they play each team at least once). I like this option more and it would still free up a couple of non-conference games.

ODAC plays an unbalanced, hybrid schedule. A team will play half the conference in a double-round-robin and the other half only once. The rivals make sure to always play twice every season, but the rest rotates. You may play Team A and B twice for a few seasons and then rotate to playing them only once (rotating locations). Allows them to play everyone for tie-breaking scenarios and still get a good portion of their schedule set for non-conference. Also can help with the SOS as well.

I think that would be great for the MIAC.  Not dissimilar to the Big Ten basketball schedule, where you won't see every team twice per year.

I wish you could add 2 more non-conference games if you don't have a conference tournament.   Would make each conference game more meaningful and would give the MIAC teams a chance to play some fun teams in the non-conference.

Not actually possible. The tournament is an exception to the 25-game rule. Thus you only get 25 games and then the conference tournament is added on. Get rid of the tournament, it doesn't allow suddenly two more games. Look at the UAA. They only play 25 games per season.

[AO]

I'd like to see the MIAC restructure it's conference schedule to more of a ODAC-style one to give teams more than four or five non-conference games to play each year. Sadly, I think they are only hurting themselves as a conference in terms of getting extra bids with the double-round-robin set-up they have playing 20 of their 25 allotted (by NCAA rule) games in conference.

Yeah I totally agree, Dave. I wonder if the MIAC has ever considering lowering the amount of conference games for the men.

What does the ODAC do?

I know the NESCAC has 11 teams but they just play each team once in conference (10 conference games) to allow 15 non-conference games. It is nice to bolster SOS but I personally don't like this as much.

The women's MIAC play less conference games. Due to St. Kates, the women have 12 teams which would only leave 3 non-conference games on the schedule; however, they only play 18 conference games and rotate year-to-year on who they don't play twice (they play each team at least once). I like this option more and it would still free up a couple of non-conference games.

ODAC plays an unbalanced, hybrid schedule. A team will play half the conference in a double-round-robin and the other half only once. The rivals make sure to always play twice every season, but the rest rotates. You may play Team A and B twice for a few seasons and then rotate to playing them only once (rotating locations). Allows them to play everyone for tie-breaking scenarios and still get a good portion of their schedule set for non-conference. Also can help with the SOS as well.

I think that would be great for the MIAC.  Not dissimilar to the Big Ten basketball schedule, where you won't see every team twice per year.

I wish you could add 2 more non-conference games if you don't have a conference tournament.   Would make each conference game more meaningful and would give the MIAC teams a chance to play some fun teams in the non-conference.

Not actually possible. The tournament is an exception to the 25-game rule. Thus you only get 25 games and then the conference tournament is added on. Get rid of the tournament, it doesn't allow suddenly two more games. Look at the UAA. They only play 25 games per season.

That's why I said "wish".

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Ah .. I interpreted that as wishing to change the schedule accordingly in the MIAC... not wishing for an entire change at the NCAA level. LOL

Sadly for your wishes... that won't happen.

[AO]

Ah .. I interpreted that as wishing to change the schedule accordingly in the MIAC... not wishing for an entire change at the NCAA level. LOL

Sadly for your wishes... that won't happen.

A man can dream.  Exhibitions or scrimmages aren't really necessary. I'd be ok with trading 1 or both of those for regular season games. The double round-robin is perfect to me.

[Smitty Oom]

A man can dream.  Exhibitions or scrimmages aren't really necessary. I'd be ok with trading 1 or both of those for regular season games. The double round-robin is perfect to me.

I also love the double round robin in an ideal world! It just stinks that it works against the MIAC in NCAA bids come March.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Ah .. I interpreted that as wishing to change the schedule accordingly in the MIAC... not wishing for an entire change at the NCAA level. LOL

Sadly for your wishes... that won't happen.

A man can dream.  Exhibitions or scrimmages aren't really necessary. I'd be ok with trading 1 or both of those for regular season games. The double round-robin is perfect to me.

This option (get rid of an exhibition for an extra game) has been discussed. You can still ... keep ... dreaming.

Here is the deal. The number of games will remain at 25 and won't climb. The exhibition exemption was actually cut back just a bit in basketball which had let things get a little out of control. In the meantime, all sports now have two exhibitions prior to the starts of their seasons - some sports had none (field hockey).

Basketball was looking at maybe a 10% cut-back a few years ago when all sports were evaluated. It didn't happen, but not because of basketball - larger issues were in play. Let's enjoy the fact we have 25 games. There are some sports that are too high (soccer and even lacrosse come to mind) in comparison, but DIII presidents aren't about to allow more games nor more weeks.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ah .. I interpreted that as wishing to change the schedule accordingly in the MIAC... not wishing for an entire change at the NCAA level. LOL

Sadly for your wishes... that won't happen.

A man can dream.  Exhibitions or scrimmages aren't really necessary. I'd be ok with trading 1 or both of those for regular season games. The double round-robin is perfect to me.

This option (get rid of an exhibition for an extra game) has been discussed. You can still ... keep ... dreaming.

Here is the deal. The number of games will remain at 25 and won't climb. The exhibition exemption was actually cut back just a bit in basketball which had let things get a little out of control. In the meantime, all sports now have two exhibitions prior to the starts of their seasons - some sports had none (field hockey).

Basketball was looking at maybe a 10% cut-back a few years ago when all sports were evaluated. It didn't happen, but not because of basketball - larger issues were in play. Let's enjoy the fact we have 25 games. There are some sports that are too high (soccer and even lacrosse come to mind) in comparison, but DIII presidents aren't about to allow more games nor more weeks.

Is this actually correct?  I've never seen a D3 football team with 2 exhibitions.  And even the one seems rarely to be a true 'game'.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I apologize. Football was the exception. Meant to note that. SMH That's what happens when trying to juggle multiple things in the evenings these days. LOL

That said, I have read somewhere that there is talk about adding an exhibition game or some kind of scrimmage for football outside of what they are already allowed. I don't think it will happen, but I will try and find it and always will follow it.

[Drake Palmer]

Well, well, well.  The few, the proud, and the last two Catholic Universities in the MIAC are the only remaining schools not to have posted their rosters.  Shame on you SJU, shame on you UST! Curious minds need to know. 😊

Elsewhere around the MIAC, all the other schools have their rosters online. I'll take a deep dive and take a closer look once the Jays & their city cousins have their rosters posted.  Suffice it to say, the quality of the Palmer FY All Name Team will not take a hit this year, as once again there are a number of outstanding nominees. 

In a slightly more serious vein, it's interesting to note that UST's Elijah Hannah's younger brother, Devon Hannah is on the Augsburg roster.

Also, those quipsters who are already conceding the league title to SJU, might want to take another look at the Bethel Royals. As I speculated earlier this spring, JR sharpshooter, Matt Ambriz has transferred from DII Concordia St. Paul. And what could be a great, one year gamble, a Mr. Minnesota finalist, and former Wisconsin walk on, Senior Riley Dearring is listed on the Bethel roster. If Coach Novak can corral all of the talent on this team, it could be a two, possibly three team race for the title.  Looking forward to another season of hoops!

Bethel roster
https://athletics.bethel.edu/roster.aspx?path=mbball

[Mr. Ypsi]

Well, well, well.  The few, the proud, and the last two Catholic Universities in the MIAC are the only remaining schools not to have posted their rosters.  Shame on you SJU, shame on you UST! Curious minds need to know. 😊

Elsewhere around the MIAC, all the other schools have their rosters online. I'll take a deep dive and take a closer look once the Jays & their city cousins have their rosters posted.  Suffice it to say, the quality of the Palmer FY All Name Team will not take a hit this year, as once again there are a number of outstanding nominees. 

In a slightly more serious vein, it's interesting to note that UST's Elijah Hannah's younger brother, Devon Hannah is on the Augsburg roster.

Also, those quipsters who are already conceding the league title to SJU, might want to take another look at the Bethel Royals. As I speculated earlier this spring, JR sharpshooter, Matt Ambriz has transferred from DII Concordia St. Paul. And what could be a great, one year gamble, a Mr. Minnesota finalist, and former Wisconsin walk on, Senior Riley Dearring is listed on the Bethel roster. If Coach Novak can corral all of the talent on this team, it could be a two, possibly three team race for the title.  Looking forward to another season of hoops!

Bethel roster
https://athletics.bethel.edu/roster.aspx?path=mbball

Hey, they're Catholic schools - don't rush 'em.  They took 400 years to admit that Galileo might have had a point; you'll see the rosters one of these centuries!

[GoldandBlueBU]

Well, well, well.  The few, the proud, and the last two Catholic Universities in the MIAC are the only remaining schools not to have posted their rosters.  Shame on you SJU, shame on you UST! Curious minds need to know. 😊

Elsewhere around the MIAC, all the other schools have their rosters online. I'll take a deep dive and take a closer look once the Jays & their city cousins have their rosters posted.  Suffice it to say, the quality of the Palmer FY All Name Team will not take a hit this year, as once again there are a number of outstanding nominees. 

In a slightly more serious vein, it's interesting to note that UST's Elijah Hannah's younger brother, Devon Hannah is on the Augsburg roster.

Also, those quipsters who are already conceding the league title to SJU, might want to take another look at the Bethel Royals. As I speculated earlier this spring, JR sharpshooter, Matt Ambriz has transferred from DII Concordia St. Paul. And what could be a great, one year gamble, a Mr. Minnesota finalist, and former Wisconsin walk on, Senior Riley Dearring is listed on the Bethel roster. If Coach Novak can corral all of the talent on this team, it could be a two, possibly three team race for the title.  Looking forward to another season of hoops!

Bethel roster
https://athletics.bethel.edu/roster.aspx?path=mbball

BU certainly has one of the more talented teams I've ever seen them have - the returning organic talent of Bridge Tusler, Granger Kingland, Jack Jenson, and Derek Magnusson were probably going to get them to the top 3, but maybe not enough to get over the top. 

As you pointed out, it will be interesting to see how quickly Novak can get Dearring and Ambriz to gel into the mix.  Definitely makes me ready to get the season rolling, given BU's lack of performance in football the past few years.

Gut instinct would still have me leaning SJU - there's a ton of value in having the same set of guys together for so long, but it will be fun to see what has developed in Arden Hills come February / March.

...and I'd be a fool to forget about the team in St. Paul that has been known to be competitive... 

[tomt4525]

Well, well, well.  The few, the proud, and the last two Catholic Universities in the MIAC are the only remaining schools not to have posted their rosters.  Shame on you SJU, shame on you UST! Curious minds need to know. 😊

Elsewhere around the MIAC, all the other schools have their rosters online. I'll take a deep dive and take a closer look once the Jays & their city cousins have their rosters posted.  Suffice it to say, the quality of the Palmer FY All Name Team will not take a hit this year, as once again there are a number of outstanding nominees. 

In a slightly more serious vein, it's interesting to note that UST's Elijah Hannah's younger brother, Devon Hannah is on the Augsburg roster.

Also, those quipsters who are already conceding the league title to SJU, might want to take another look at the Bethel Royals. As I speculated earlier this spring, JR sharpshooter, Matt Ambriz has transferred from DII Concordia St. Paul. And what could be a great, one year gamble, a Mr. Minnesota finalist, and former Wisconsin walk on, Senior Riley Dearring is listed on the Bethel roster. If Coach Novak can corral all of the talent on this team, it could be a two, possibly three team race for the title.  Looking forward to another season of hoops!

Bethel roster
https://athletics.bethel.edu/roster.aspx?path=mbball

I could be wrong, but I'm almost sure that Dearring was a scholarship player for Wisconsin.  He then transferred out due to lack of playing time to...I want to say Cal St Fullerton, could be wrong with that too....and then has now transferred to Bethel.

[AO]

Well, well, well.  The few, the proud, and the last two Catholic Universities in the MIAC are the only remaining schools not to have posted their rosters.  Shame on you SJU, shame on you UST! Curious minds need to know. 😊

Elsewhere around the MIAC, all the other schools have their rosters online. I'll take a deep dive and take a closer look once the Jays & their city cousins have their rosters posted.  Suffice it to say, the quality of the Palmer FY All Name Team will not take a hit this year, as once again there are a number of outstanding nominees. 

In a slightly more serious vein, it's interesting to note that UST's Elijah Hannah's younger brother, Devon Hannah is on the Augsburg roster.

Also, those quipsters who are already conceding the league title to SJU, might want to take another look at the Bethel Royals. As I speculated earlier this spring, JR sharpshooter, Matt Ambriz has transferred from DII Concordia St. Paul. And what could be a great, one year gamble, a Mr. Minnesota finalist, and former Wisconsin walk on, Senior Riley Dearring is listed on the Bethel roster. If Coach Novak can corral all of the talent on this team, it could be a two, possibly three team race for the title.  Looking forward to another season of hoops!

Bethel roster
https://athletics.bethel.edu/roster.aspx?path=mbball

I could be wrong, but I'm almost sure that Dearring was a scholarship player for Wisconsin.  He then transferred out due to lack of playing time to...I want to say Cal St Fullerton, could be wrong with that too....and then has now transferred to Bethel.

see page 1271

[tomt4525]

http://www.tommiesports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/roster

St Thomas posts their roster