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D3fanboy

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with the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.

Saturday's Mount game @ Ott is probably the first "meaningless" game for the Raiders in over 30 years.  Meaningless is a strong word choice, but they will be playing for nothing but pride...no conference title or playoff implications.  The season is over the second the clock strikes 00:00. 

I'll be interesting to see how the coaching staff is allowed to proceed.  Do you just have fun and call crazy plays?  Do you give some young guys some burn?  treat it like an NFL preseason game? 

Other than Ashby being 170 yards away from 1k, there shouldn't be a lot of stat chasing going on.  Mount is nowhere close to having a 1k yard rusher for the first time in who knows how long nor are there many other statistical wonders in this year of ineptitude

BergAlum2

#68071
Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 10:06:56 AMwith the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.



Didn't think we were even close, but took a look and the Berg first one out on NPI, and surprisingly the mathematical mind of the Hansen Ratings has us at a 33.2% chance of getting into the playoff.  Which is .1% chance higher than John Carrol's odds, so maybe some upsets happen this weekend.  Then ya'll can have a shot of playing in the prestigious Pity Bowl in Canton, shame it might be the NESCAC's fault you don't get a postseason, if the Berg ends up as the first one out. 

Gotta commend Mount's out of conference schedule though, 2 good teams, and one close lost.  I think NPI system weighs more on winning percentage than out of conference opponent strength, so I wonder if it's advisable to schedule easier games?  No mysterious playoff committee that decides you fate, only a computer model.  Next year UWW might be another lost for 'ya, and if the rest of the OAC can have 1 or 2 teams that can compete against you again and one wins, then your playoff odds surely don't look as good as they used to be, as 8-2 is not a guarantee in.  Luckily I believe at least BW and Berg are graduating a lot, not sure about Marietta.

pradierguy

Quote from: BergAlum2 on Yesterday at 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 10:06:56 AMwith the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.



Didn't think we were even close, but took a look and the Berg first one out on NPI, and surprisingly the mathematical mind of the Hansen Ratings has us at a 33.2% chance of getting into the playoff.  Which is .1% chance higher than John Carrol's odds, so maybe some upsets happen this weekend.  Then ya'll can have a shot of playing in the prestigious Pity Bowl in Canton, shame it might be the NESCAC's fault you don't get a postseason, if the Berg ends up as the first one out. 

Gotta commend Mount's out of conference schedule though, 2 good teams, and one close lost.  I think NPI system weighs more on winning percentage than out of conference opponent strength, so I wonder if it's advisable to schedule easier games?  No mysterious playoff committee that decides you fate, only a computer model. Next year UWW might be another lost for 'ya, and if the rest of the OAC can have 1 or 2 teams that can compete against you again and one wins, then your playoff odds surely don't look as good as they used to be, as 8-2 is not a guarantee in.  Luckily I believe at least BW and Berg are graduating a lot, not sure about Marietta.

8-2... in this economy?!  ;D

pradierguy

Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 10:06:56 AMwith the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.

Saturday's Mount game @ Ott is probably the first "meaningless" game for the Raiders in over 30 years.  Meaningless is a strong word choice, but they will be playing for nothing but pride...no conference title or playoff implications.  The season is over the second the clock strikes 00:00. 

I'll be interesting to see how the coaching staff is allowed to proceed.  Do you just have fun and call crazy plays?  Do you give some young guys some burn?  treat it like an NFL preseason game? 

Other than Ashby being 170 yards away, there shouldn't be a lot of stat chasing going on.  Mount is nowhere close to having a 1k yard rusher for the first time in who knows how long nor are there many other statistical wonders in this year of ineptitude


I don't remember reading a 100% accurate post filled with more facts/info/thoughts that disgusted me more. My goodness, it really is over.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: pradierguy on Yesterday at 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 10:06:56 AMwith the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.

Saturday's Mount game @ Ott is probably the first "meaningless" game for the Raiders in over 30 years.  Meaningless is a strong word choice, but they will be playing for nothing but pride...no conference title or playoff implications.  The season is over the second the clock strikes 00:00. 

I'll be interesting to see how the coaching staff is allowed to proceed.  Do you just have fun and call crazy plays?  Do you give some young guys some burn?  treat it like an NFL preseason game? 

Other than Ashby being 170 yards away, there shouldn't be a lot of stat chasing going on.  Mount is nowhere close to having a 1k yard rusher for the first time in who knows how long nor are there many other statistical wonders in this year of ineptitude


I don't remember reading a 100% accurate post filled with more facts/info/thoughts that disgusted me more. My goodness, it really is over.

About the only thing in play is don't get shutout.  Thankfully, I think that one streak is safe unless the Cards turn into the '85 Bears.

I agree with whomever brought up apathy.  I mentioned it a year or two ago that hoops had overtaken football in my hierarchy of following Mount sports.  Football has become more passive than active for me i.e. if I'm watching OSU and I remember I'll throw Mount on my iPad.  But I don't actively plan to watch Mount games, know their schedule, know their roster, etc. like I used to.

D3fanboy

Quote from: pradierguy on November 08, 2026, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 08, 2026, 12:49:24 PMFrom Doerschuk's article in the Rep:

"Mount Union starts only five seniors and would seem to have a bright future.  Dartt, the current head coach, could not be located afterward to talk about it."

The portal is going to drain the young roster dry.

GD ducking media. So on brand.

I'm not even mad. I'm full blown apathetic.

for most Purple Raider players, you likely aren't going to find much greener grass.  this year's tape isn't exactly going to be lighting up the portal market. 

now, there's a large reason why I'm hearing that significant players are toying with the idea of entering the portal.  hopefully it's just being heated after a tough showing on Saturday.  I truly don't believe that Geoff is capable of the recruiting job that he needs to do this offseason.  HS, keeping kids from the portal and bringing in difference makers from the portal...other than in-game management, pre-game motivation and post-game media requirements, recruiting has shown to be his major shortfall

D3fanboy

Quote from: BergAlum2 on Yesterday at 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 10:06:56 AMwith the OAC wrapped up and some pretty lopsided matchups this week.  BW is playing for playoff seeding, but they should be able to withstand the mighty Muskies.  Only Berg is really playing for anything, a win over Wilma gets them a bid to the prestigious Wendy's Chili Bowl in Canton.



Didn't think we were even close, but took a look and the Berg first one out on NPI, and surprisingly the mathematical mind of the Hansen Ratings has us at a 33.2% chance of getting into the playoff.  Which is .1% chance higher than John Carrol's odds, so maybe some upsets happen this weekend.  Then ya'll can have a shot of playing in the prestigious Pity Bowl in Canton, shame it might be the NESCAC's fault you don't get a postseason, if the Berg ends up as the first one out. 

Gotta commend Mount's out of conference schedule though, 2 good teams, and one close lost.  I think NPI system weighs more on winning percentage than out of conference opponent strength, so I wonder if it's advisable to schedule easier games?  No mysterious playoff committee that decides you fate, only a computer model.  Next year UWW might be another lost for 'ya, and if the rest of the OAC can have 1 or 2 teams that can compete against you again and one wins, then your playoff odds surely don't look as good as they used to be, as 8-2 is not a guarantee in.  Luckily I believe at least BW and Berg are graduating a lot, not sure about Marietta.

beating Mount Union used to get you a higher-level job right away.  Leipold, Arth, DC Shula, last year's JCU coach...luckily for Berg and BW fans, I don't think that is the case anymore. 

Dr. Acula

Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: pradierguy on November 08, 2026, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 08, 2026, 12:49:24 PMFrom Doerschuk's article in the Rep:

"Mount Union starts only five seniors and would seem to have a bright future.  Dartt, the current head coach, could not be located afterward to talk about it."

The portal is going to drain the young roster dry.

GD ducking media. So on brand.

I'm not even mad. I'm full blown apathetic.

for most Purple Raider players, you likely aren't going to find much greener grass.  this year's tape isn't exactly going to be lighting up the portal market. 

now, there's a large reason why I'm hearing that significant players are toying with the idea of entering the portal.  hopefully it's just being heated after a tough showing on Saturday.  I truly don't believe that Geoff is capable of the recruiting job that he needs to do this offseason.  HS, keeping kids from the portal and bringing in difference makers from the portal...other than in-game management, pre-game motivation and post-game media requirements, recruiting has shown to be his major shortfall
Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: pradierguy on November 08, 2026, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 08, 2026, 12:49:24 PMFrom Doerschuk's article in the Rep:

"Mount Union starts only five seniors and would seem to have a bright future.  Dartt, the current head coach, could not be located afterward to talk about it."

The portal is going to drain the young roster dry.

GD ducking media. So on brand.

I'm not even mad. I'm full blown apathetic.

for most Purple Raider players, you likely aren't going to find much greener grass.  this year's tape isn't exactly going to be lighting up the portal market. 

now, there's a large reason why I'm hearing that significant players are toying with the idea of entering the portal.  hopefully it's just being heated after a tough showing on Saturday.  I truly don't believe that Geoff is capable of the recruiting job that he needs to do this offseason.  HS, keeping kids from the portal and bringing in difference makers from the portal...other than in-game management, pre-game motivation and post-game media requirements, recruiting has shown to be his major shortfall

It's painful how much this depressed me and made me laugh in one post. 

Raider 68

The sad aspect of the Mount football decline over the past few years in so many phases of the game
is that it could have been avoided with the right HC. Not sure LK has said much about it, but deep down
he cannot be happy about what we have all seen.
13 time Division III National Champions

D3fanboy

Quote from: Raider 68 on Today at 11:08:02 AMThe sad aspect of the Mount football decline over the past few years in so many phases of the game
is that it could have been avoided with the right HC. Not sure LK has said much about it, but deep down
he cannot be happy about what we have all seen.

the drop from

17 - Natty
18 - Runner Up
19 - 2nd best team

to 3rd place in the OAC in 6 years is incredible.  Jeff with a G football baby!!!

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: D3fanboy on Today at 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on Today at 11:08:02 AMThe sad aspect of the Mount football decline over the past few years in so many phases of the game
is that it could have been avoided with the right HC. Not sure LK has said much about it, but deep down
he cannot be happy about what we have all seen.

the drop from

17 - Natty
18 - Runner Up
19 - 2nd best team

to 3rd place in the OAC in 6 years is incredible.  Jeff with a G football baby!!!

2022 and 2024 They were in the Championship.
National Champions - 13: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on Yesterday at 09:11:34 AM
Quote from: pradierguy on November 08, 2026, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 08, 2026, 12:49:24 PMFrom Doerschuk's article in the Rep:

"Mount Union starts only five seniors and would seem to have a bright future.  Dartt, the current head coach, could not be located afterward to talk about it."



The portal is going to drain the young roster dry.

GD ducking media. So on brand.

I'm not even mad. I'm full blown apathetic.

judging by the crowds, you aren't the only one.  the fans are dwindling, the student body doesn't seem to care...getting boat raced by UWW in the home opener next season is not going to help things out either.  But, hey, the standard is the standard

Honestly for the weather and awkward kickoff time AND the fact the game was streaming on Amazon, I thought turnout was pretty good. I had a very difficult time finding parking and the 3450 attendance number seemed pretty accurate.

I'm still incredibly disappointed in last year's JCU game attendance which was like 2200.