FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bison Bill]

Bethany put it all over Thiel. Great atmosphere today and everyone had a reason to actually watch the game.

To remind everyone, we only beat Thiel 17-12 last year.

No idea what will happen the rest of the season in terms of wins and losses but we have ourselves a ball coach and good football team.

I'm still not sure how good we are, but a lot of people sure are excited for the first time in a long time.

Welcome to the discussion.

If you look back, I've been high on the Bison since Pat interviewed HC.

Next 3 games look tough Geneva, GC and W&J. But after that, I'd give Bethany a chance to win out.

Yes. The next few weeks will tell us just how far we've come and how far we still need to go etc.

[ADL70]

I think that a lost onside kick should count as a turnover. So Spartans had five turnovers and won. Of course one of the Spartans two takeaways was Yordy's pick six that clinched the game.

So Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

Spartans could have been caught looking ahead to W&J, but instead they've given the Prez a whole lot of different looks to be concerned about.

Andy Kavcic must have gotten tired of everyone praising his brother and decide to make his mark. Seriously, he appears to have put some injuries behind him.

[mikefln]

So Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

There are many variables that go into it.  Timing/situation being a big one.

But stats from Pro-Football-Reference show teams at a -3 turnover margin win 10-15%.  Teams with -4 or more win only 3-8%.

Not good odds, regardless of what happened in the GCC/Mount game or the Case/Shenadoah game.  Never said it never happened, I said it is rare and the stats back me up.

[mikefln]

After watching the Allegheny/Waynesburg, if Allegheny can become more consistent with their O, they could be dangerous.  The D is good, the O has playmakers, but they were up and down in my opinion.

[ADL70]

So Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

There are many variables that go into it.  Timing/situation being a big one.

But stats from Pro-Football-Reference show teams at a -3 turnover margin win 10-15%.  Teams with -4 or more win only 3-8%.

Not good odds, regardless of what happened in the GCC/Mount game or the Case/Shenadoah game.  Never said it never happened, I said it is rare and the stats back me up.

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

Last Saturday Heidelberg was intercepted 5 times by MtU and won by outgaining them 544-477.

[ADL70]

After watching the Allegheny/Waynesburg, if Allegheny can become more consistent with their O, they could be dangerous.  The D is good, the O has playmakers, but they were up and down in my opinion.

Looking at the box score, seems to me the playmakers were all on D for Gators not O. 2 pick sixes and a scoop and score.

What playmakers does the O have? None made big plays against the Jackets.

Both teams were 4-4 in PAC in 2025. Allegheny beat W-burg 21-11 then. I don't see any evidence they are better than 2025.

Allegheny has a scheduling advantage only playing W&J, CWRU and Geneva among the top of PAC. Allegheny's 3 wins are over teams combined 2-4 not counting losses to Gators. With easier schedule could be 5-3 PAC

[mikefln]

So Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

There are many variables that go into it.  Timing/situation being a big one.

But stats from Pro-Football-Reference show teams at a -3 turnover margin win 10-15%.  Teams with -4 or more win only 3-8%.

Not good odds, regardless of what happened in the GCC/Mount game or the Case/Shenadoah game.  Never said it never happened, I said it is rare and the stats back me up.

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

Last Saturday Heidelberg was intercepted 5 times by MtU and won by outgaining them 544-477.

I literally showed you the stats from PFR, just because it happened 3 times in a row, doesn't change a thing.

[mikefln]

After watching the Allegheny/Waynesburg, if Allegheny can become more consistent with their O, they could be dangerous.  The D is good, the O has playmakers, but they were up and down in my opinion.

Looking at the box score, seems to me the playmakers were all on D for Gators not O. 2 pick sixes and a scoop and score.

What playmakers does the O have? None made big plays against the Jackets.

Both teams were 4-4 in PAC in 2025. Allegheny beat W-burg 21-11 then. I don't see any evidence they are better than 2025.

Allegheny has a scheduling advantage only playing W&J, CWRU and Geneva among the top of PAC. Allegheny's 3 wins are over teams combined 2-4 not counting losses to Gators. With easier schedule could be 5-3 PAC

The defense is the stars, that is my point.  The playmaker on O was the WR, I forget number and name.  The qb is inconsistent, he will make a good throw followed by a bad throw.  The line was spotty.  If they can improve in those 2 spots, they might be able to give a scare to some teams.  As they stand rn, the are a middle of the road team. 

[ADL70]

No point in discussing with you.
You move the cheese.
First "D is good."
Then "Defense is the stars, that is my point."
Offense has playmakers, but only mentioned a WR whose name you can't remember

[SFUkindaFan]

Are you a D3 alum or have another local team to support?

Do you know if the Flash/Wolves have been able to scrimmage anyone?

I have some connects to Westminster so I went to a bunch of their games but mostly am just a football fan. They did have a scrimmage. I feel like they could be competitive this year if only they had like 4 or so more offensive linemen. They only have maybe 10 or so players over 250 lbs, which is a big problem.

[mikefln]

No point in discussing with you.
You move the cheese.
First "D is good."
Then "Defense is the stars, that is my point."
Offense has playmakers, but only mentioned a WR whose name you can't remember

Whatever dude.  Yes I used plurality with playmaker when it should have been singular.   You got me.

[ADL70]

Grove City might be the best 0-2 d3 team in the country. Both losses were to Top 25 teams. Cortland and Mt Union

[ADL70]

No point in discussing with you.
You move the cheese.
First "D is good."
Then "Defense is the stars, that is my point."
Offense has playmakers, but only mentioned a WR whose name you can't remember

Whatever dude.  Yes I used plurality with playmaker when it should have been singular.   You got me.

A plurality means having the largest number or part of a whole, but not necessarily more than half.

[HCAlum86]

What's been the change with Bethany this year? Impressive showing, especially on the heels of a tough loss

[Patrick Coleman]

What's been the change with Bethany this year? Impressive showing, especially on the heels of a tough loss

New coach. We interviewed him this offseason. Fascinating background and philosophy:
https://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2026/04/30/atn-podcast-407-headed-to-the-titans-new-sounds-for-bison/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=indbi38PN80