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AndOne

iwu4ever,

Seems like your question would best be answered by the IWU head coach who was responsible for having him in the game in that situation. I'm sure he would respond to your e-mail asking that very question. Perhaps the coaching staff is trying to run up his stats and build support for his possible selection as POY?  ;)

Your question certainly has merit. You do have to wonder why the star RB is returning kicks in a blow out game.   :o

"Stud" fullback Conley? In 5 games he has run the ball 15 times for 62 yards and has 7 catches for 57 yards. This qualifies him for stud status? ::)

USee

Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:34:32 AM


"Stud" fullback Conley? In 5 games he has run the ball 15 times for 62 yards and has 7 catches for 57 yards. This qualifies him for stud status? ::)

To be fair, there aren't many FB's with big stat lines. Look in the NFL, none of them have stats but they play a long time. That said, with Jones emeergence and Stinde's occasional appearances, it does appear Conley is a little further down the depth chart when it comes to carrying the ball so not surprising he gets some work late in games.

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:34:32 AM


"Stud" fullback Conley? In 5 games he has run the ball 15 times for 62 yards and has 7 catches for 57 yards. This qualifies him for stud status? ::)

To be fair, there aren't many FB's with big stat lines. Look in the NFL, none of them have stats but they play a long time. That said, with Jones emeergence and Stinde's occasional appearances, it does appear Conley is a little further down the depth chart when it comes to carrying the ball so not surprising he gets some work late in games.

Was going to say the same.  The value of a fullback is not always in his statistics; in some offenses the fullback's blocking is as crucial as another offensive lineman.  I understand both sides of this argument - you may want to let your fullback get a little work with the ball for practice in case you need him to carry it down the line in a crucial situation, but also don't want to expose the starting FB to needless hits and risk of injury with the victory secure.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

oldnuthin

A little his late with this but for general consumption. I thought these kind of injury bugs only hit Wheaton and IWU, at least over the past few years.

http://herald-review.com/sports/college/millikin-hurting-on-defensive-side/article_ab3829ca-33c4-11e3-a66c-0019bb2963f4.html

AndOne

Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.

http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.   

USee

Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.

http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

NCF

Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.



http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

raising the white flag already? ;D 8-) ;)
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ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: NCF on October 15, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.



http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

raising the white flag already? ;D 8-) ;)

Reminds me of an absolutely great movie scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Li65P_3lvM

Although now that I think about it, this isn't quite the same joke.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

CardinalAlum

Quote from: oldnuthin on October 15, 2013, 02:19:03 PM
A little his late with this but for general consumption. I thought these kind of injury bugs only hit Wheaton and IWU, at least over the past few years.

http://herald-review.com/sports/college/millikin-hurting-on-defensive-side/article_ab3829ca-33c4-11e3-a66c-0019bb2963f4.html

I wonder if Etherton had fun?   ;D.  He didn't appear to be having any fun when I saw him!
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.

http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

Nice try!  But if you need me to, I'll swing by Wheatieville and grab the Bell!   ;)
D3 National Champions 2019, 2022, 2024

AndOne

Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.

http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

Well, no one man makes a team but, thanks USee.
Will your Crusaders, er Thunder, be joining us in the playoffs?  :-\

hazzben

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 15, 2013, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: NCF on October 15, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
Quote from: USee on October 15, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.



http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.

Looks like the Cards are unbeatable! The rest of us should just take the rest of the year off. Good luck in the playoffs NCC.  8-)

raising the white flag already? ;D 8-) ;)

Reminds me of an absolutely great movie scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Li65P_3lvM

Although now that I think about it, this isn't quite the same joke.

Fun tidbit from that movie and the real life history that no doubt interests only me. My relatives (paternal grandfathers uncles and cousins) hid many allied troops caught behind enemies lines in Operation Market Garden. When the movie was made, their kids got to be Dutch extras as a tip of the cap for their service to the allies.

ExTartanPlayer

+K strictly for having seen A Bridge Too Far.

Very cool tidbit, hazzben.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

shepherd

Quote from: AndOne on October 15, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: AndOne on October 14, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Congrats to the CCIW Players Of The Week:

Offensive---------->Spencer Stanek, North Central QB
Defensive---------->Adam Dansdill, Wheaton LB
Special Teams----->Devonte Jones, IWU RB

* This is Stanek's third POW award.
* Jones was the offensive POW last week.

http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/10/14/FB_1014134734.aspx

After his (15/16 for 221 and 3 TDs) performance last Saturday, NCC's Spencer Stanek has thrown for a CCIW best 1,394 yards and 15 TDs so far this season. 

Nationally, he ranks 2nd in completion percentage (76.6), and 3rd in passing efficiency (193.3).

His per-game average of 319.4 yards of total offense is more than the total output of 60 NCAA Division III teams.
Stanek is definitely playing very well right now.  I was impressed by the timing of the seam routes for touchdowns.  Things change week to week in the CCIW.  Hopefully Wheaton can get some of the receivers healthy before IWU in two weeks.

USee

A few observations that may be of little to no interets:

This week features Wheaton v Elmhurst and Augustana v Millikin as the only real games of intrigue as tune-ups to three consecutive showdown week's featuring Wheaton @ IWU, NCC @ IWU, and finishing with NCC @Wheaton.

As we look at the top 3 teams in the conference, until they play each other we really won't know much about how good they are other than experiential perceptions (IWU and Wheaton have 28 srs, NCC beat 3 WIAC teams, Wheaton beat NCC last year, NCC has the top rated QB, IWU was undefeated before Gallik got hurt, etc). These and other inherently biased perceptions skew each of our perspectives, whether that is good or bad.

The main reason we don't know much about these three teams (or most of the top 10 teams in the North Region) are because none of them have played a quality opponent. NCC has come closest by beating a 4-1 UWSP team. But that's the only team with a winning record NCC has beat. The collective record of the rest of their schedule is 4-16. Wheaton has wins over 3 teams with winning records, albeit Albion, Benedictine and Augie aren't scaring anybody right now, and IWU's only win over a winning team is a 14-7 home win over 4-2 Hope (Their other opponents are 3-18).

The same could be said for most of the North Region by the way. Mt Union's opponents are 6-19 right now but we can be pretty sure they are good. Wabash's opponents are 11-16, Wittenberg's are 13-16, Heidleberg's foes are 3-23 yet we all assume they are good teams because of their margin's of relative domination. Franklin is widely assumed to be the 2nd best team in the region because they LOST close games to 2 teams that are 5-0 and 5-2 respectively. It's a crazy system we live in.

All of this simply means that when Wheaton and IWU square off a week from Saturday (not that anyone is looking ahead) the best teams either of them will have played is each other. NCC has a solid win over UWSP (the other 2 WIAC wins for them are over teams that are a combined 2-8) that will help them when they face IWU and Wheaton is successive weeks but there isn't a lot of predictability in the coming weeks, which CCIW fans should enjoy.