FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[SagatagSam]

Congrats to SJU for clinching .500

Wasn't too long ago a .500 season would have been a tommie BENCHmark.

I tip my cap to the Toms for a great conclusion to a regular season that precedes what looks to be a deep postseason run.
I've been waiting for the flood of Tommie posters to crash the servers for this board, gloating about the accomplishment.
That was the first and only peep I have heard in the 5+ hours since their game concluded.

Not that you need permission from me, but I'm giving the purple and gray free reign to gloat as they please.

[carletonsid]

Wonder if anyone heard the end of the Johnnie game on the Oles' station, KDHL? I can imagine what their radio guy, the legendary Mike Morrissey, sounded like. He can even outhomer Mark. He couldn't have been real pleased.

Just listened to the end as St. Olaf should have had a chance at a game-winning, then muffed the punt and SJU worked its magic. For whatever reason, Mike wasn't on the broadcast. I think he did Faribault-Red Wing section finals on Friday night, so maybe that's why.

Kinda embarrassed to say it, but a little sad for the Oles. Coach O's daughter was in my wife's class a couple of years ago and they seem like a great family, and frankly I'm in the camp that the more MIAC teams that make the NCAAs the better. Oh well. Look like we have to hitch our wagons to UST if that's the case.

[Mr.MIAC]

No need for me to gloat, but I have been exercising some "creative thinking skills."  I just updated SJU's logo to more accurately reflect its current standing in the MIAC.

[sfury]

Wonder if anyone heard the end of the Johnnie game on the Oles' station, KDHL? I can imagine what their radio guy, the legendary Mike Morrissey, sounded like. He can even outhomer Mark. He couldn't have been real pleased.

Just listened to the end as St. Olaf should have had a chance at a game-winning, then muffed the punt and SJU worked its magic. For whatever reason, Mike wasn't on the broadcast. I think he did Faribault-Red Wing section finals on Friday night, so maybe that's why.

Kinda embarrassed to say it, but a little sad for the Oles. Coach O's daughter was in my wife's class a couple of years ago and they seem like a great family, and frankly I'm in the camp that the more MIAC teams that make the NCAAs the better. Oh well. Look like we have to hitch our wagons to UST if that's the case.

And Gordy Kosfeld is still with KDHL too, right? Both guys had been around forever when I was in high school listening to them do the dominant Faribault B.A. hoops teams. And that's 18-20 years ago.

And if the Oles don't muff that punt at the end, I definitely think they win. Had just marched down for a score, would have had it inside the SJU 45 and had the wind for a FG. Tough break for the Oles.

[USTBench]

Congrats to SJU for clinching .500

Zing.

But Bench, did it really take five hours to think of  that one? St. Thomas' devotion to teaching creative thinking skills to its students again on full display.

Zing.

The Tommies...moving up to No. 2 in the country after the Mount Union scare? Probably not, but with that game and Whitewater's escape last week it does seem like there's at least a chance it won't be an all-purple title game for a seventh straight year. Well, those two purples anyway.

Didn't take me that long to think of it, was watching UND need a last second field goal to beat Division II provisional school, Sioux Falls at the Alerus.

[carletonsid]

Wonder if anyone heard the end of the Johnnie game on the Oles' station, KDHL? I can imagine what their radio guy, the legendary Mike Morrissey, sounded like. He can even outhomer Mark. He couldn't have been real pleased.

Just listened to the end as St. Olaf should have had a chance at a game-winning, then muffed the punt and SJU worked its magic. For whatever reason, Mike wasn't on the broadcast. I think he did Faribault-Red Wing section finals on Friday night, so maybe that's why.

Kinda embarrassed to say it, but a little sad for the Oles. Coach O's daughter was in my wife's class a couple of years ago and they seem like a great family, and frankly I'm in the camp that the more MIAC teams that make the NCAAs the better. Oh well. Look like we have to hitch our wagons to UST if that's the case.

And Gordy Kosfeld is still with KDHL too, right? Both guys had been around forever when I was in high school listening to them do the dominant Faribault B.A. hoops teams. And that's 18-20 years ago.

And if the Oles don't muff that punt at the end, I definitely think they win. Had just marched down for a score, would have had it inside the SJU 45 and had the wind for a FG. Tough break for the Oles.

Yes, Gordy is still with KDHL. He broadcasts games for us at Carleton on 95.9 FM for football and then KDHL 920 AM for basketball (St. Olaf no longer broadcasts basketball on the radio, but Mike calls the games online for the Oles). I think Gordy is out doing a game, high school or college, from September through June, from football/volleyball to basketball/ hockey and baseball/softball in the spring. Plus, he's the news director and does a great job there. How come I feel like radio folks like Gordy are a dying breed?

[sjusection105]

SJU- St. Olaf story here <-------- Click Over There

[PurpleReign]

It sounds like St. Olaf basically gave that game away to the Johns.  I believe that St. Olaf was way overrated and that the victory is kinda like coming in second in a two horse race - yes the horse came in second, wow, but there were only two horses in the race - if you know what I mean.  So, congrats on the great season St. Johns and welcome to your new reality.

[sfury]

It sounds like St. Olaf basically gave that game away to the Johns.  I believe that St. Olaf was way overrated and that the victory is kinda like coming in second in a two horse race - yes the horse came in second, wow, but there were only two horses in the race - if you know what I mean.  So, congrats on the great season St. Johns and welcome to your new reality.

As Sag said, the Tommies have every reason to gloat and take shots and they are the top dogs (horse, if you will) now. But SJU jabs should at least still be grounded in reality (John's age; recruiting practices; it's an all-male school - ha, all men, wink wink; incessant advertising during a game; the fact SJU might have the only clock in the country that does 10ths of seconds, which probably cost them the game against Augsburg. Seriously, have you ever seen a team in football score on a play that started with .6? Ugh; inability to find a starting QB or to stick with one and by all indications it will be the same dance next season and won't that be fun; and did I mention it's an all-male school?)

But what's not based on reality is the line "It sounds like St. Olaf basically gave that game away to the Johns," even if it was written as just a way to poke SJU and its sobbing fan base that has to accept their new Tommie overlords. Yes, the Oles muffed a punt at the end and without that they very likely go in for the winning score.

But before that? Six SJU turnovers. Five in the first half. The first four possessions...turnovers (someone needs to track down if there's ever been a team anywhere that turned the ball over on its first four possessions and still won. This shouldn't be hard to find...).

First one coming after SJU drove to the Ole 9. Another pick coming when they drove to the Ole 15. One of the fumbles at the Ole 39.

Total yards: SJU 411, Oles 275.

There was one team that tried giving that game away yesterday. It wasn't St. Olaf.

On another note, SJU kicker Jimmie Mattson has never missed a field goal in his Johnnie career. 15-for-15. And some of those are 40-plus yarders, and at least one from 50-plus. He's become a real nice weapon, especially for a team that historically could never find a kicker (some of the great teams in SJU past had kickers who made Alabama's guys look like Morten Andersen. I'm specifically recalling the 1999 Bethel game and the 2006 Whitewater game). Unfortunately for Mattson, his most famous kick will probably always be a certain extra point try against the Tommies last season.

[badgerwarhawk]

To my knowledge every team in the WIAC has a clock that does tenths of a second and I have seen several others in my travels.  If there was .6 time remaining a clock without tenths of a second would read :01 so it would appear that they had more time remaining than they actually did. 

[sfury]

To my knowledge every team in the WIAC has a clock that does tenths of a second and I have seen several others in my travels.  If there was .6 time remaining a clock without tenths of a second would read :01 so it would appear that they had more time remaining than they actually did.

Thanks Warhawk. Maybe it's more smaller schools, for whatever reason; I don't remember seeing it on TV games. Just thinking of the USC-Stanford game last week where Kiffin thought there should still be a second to go. If they did tenths, he probably would have and could have kicked a field goal.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

I could b mistaken, but I am pretty sure there was an NCAA mandate a few years back requiring clocks to show tenths of seconds.

[sfury]

But wouldn't that be a mandate throughout all divisions? The Columbia field doesn't have it. And I can't remember seeing it on any TV games. Basketball, yes. Football? Can't remember seeing it.

Pat, help us.

Here's someone talking about that USC-Stanford game I mentioned:

Unfortunately, football clocks are not like basketball clocks. Football clocks do not measure tenths of a second. Theoretically, a football clock reading 0:01 may really be 0:01.9, just as it may really be 0:01.0. All that the college football rules state is when a game clock reads 0:00, time has expired.

Yes, that means that the game clock could theoretically read 0:00.9 at the expiration of the quarter.

In reality, the time elapsed from Woods' knee touching the ground at 0:01 to the game clock reading 0:00 was no more than 0.250 seconds. The official had no more than 0.249 seconds to call timeout from the time of the dead ball to the expiration of the quarter.

[badgerwarhawk]

Not that it matters but to just to clarify how the clock works.  A clock without tenths of a second and 0:01.9 seconds remaining would read 0:02.  It wouldn't go to 0:01 until the entire second second was exhausted.  If there were 0:00.250 seconds remaining it would read 0:01.

[WashedUp]

To my knowledge every team in the WIAC has a clock that does tenths of a second and I have seen several others in my travels.  If there was .6 time remaining a clock without tenths of a second would read :01 so it would appear that they had more time remaining than they actually did.

Just a guess, but it may have something to do with a lot of D3 schools sharing their stadiums with their track teams and the scoreboard not being very useful for track meets if it doesn't show hundredths of a second.