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SagatagSam

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

DuffMan

Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I have the same questions.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

jknezek

Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.

This was my first thought as well when I saw it yesterday. It doesn't look like the hitter does anything. Home run trot is pretty normal. I assume there had to be some history between those players, or the pitcher is just a nut job.

Caz Bombers

Quote from: jknezek on April 22, 2022, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.

This was my first thought as well when I saw it yesterday. It doesn't look like the hitter does anything. Home run trot is pretty normal. I assume there had to be some history between those players, or the pitcher is just a nut job.

you can see the base umpire gesturing towards the hitter when he is between 2nd and 3rd base. It seems like the umpire may have been in the process of ejecting the batter for something he said to the pitcher when the pitcher snaps and attacks the guy.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Caz Bombers on April 22, 2022, 01:34:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 22, 2022, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.

This was my first thought as well when I saw it yesterday. It doesn't look like the hitter does anything. Home run trot is pretty normal. I assume there had to be some history between those players, or the pitcher is just a nut job.

you can see the base umpire gesturing towards the hitter when he is between 2nd and 3rd base. It seems like the umpire may have been in the process of ejecting the batter for something he said to the pitcher when the pitcher snaps and attacks the guy.

The story on CNN was that the victim of the assault was one of the players suspended, for taunting.  So the speculation here seems confirmed.  But I hope we can all agree that no level of verbal taunting can justify the violence of the pitcher.

SagatagSam

Quote from: Caz Bombers on April 22, 2022, 01:34:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 22, 2022, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.

This was my first thought as well when I saw it yesterday. It doesn't look like the hitter does anything. Home run trot is pretty normal. I assume there had to be some history between those players, or the pitcher is just a nut job.

you can see the base umpire gesturing towards the hitter when he is between 2nd and 3rd base. It seems like the umpire may have been in the process of ejecting the batter for something he said to the pitcher when the pitcher snaps and attacks the guy.

A reporter in Houston got ahold of the Umpire's game report and posted it to Twitter. It reads:

In the 2nd inning, #25 Phillips for North Central and the starting pitcher for Weatherford College, Siravo #31, exchanged words after Phillips struck out.
Home Plate Umpire, Keith Prichard didn't hear what was said because of the crowd and strong winds but walked over to the NCTC dugout and told them to knock it off and then walked over to the pitcher Siravo and told him to knock it off.
Top of the 6th inning:   2 outs     Runner on 1st'      3 -1 count    North Central at bat
#25 Phillips for North Central hits a 2 run home run.  As he was rounding the bases between 2nd and 3rd Phillips yells out to Weatherford's pitcher, "F--k You".
Sam Kayea, Base Umpire, pointed at Phillips and said, "If you want to stay in this game, shut your mouth."  Phillips did not say another word after that.  As Phillips rounded third, Woodwards (sic) #20, the pitcher for Weatherford violently tackled Phillips.

The North Central players cleared their bench, and the North Central bullpen came running to the field.  There were two North Central players that had nothing to do with the fight; the lead runner Acinger #20 and the on deck batter Huspen #4.
Five Weatherford players left their positions.  The catcher from Weatherford, #10 Stark, left his position to help pull players off that were fighting Woodward but did not throw any punches.
Additional Weatherford players, 3rd baseman Merka #4, shortstop Penoley #12, and 1st baseman Villeneuve #28 ran  over but did not actively participate in the fight.
The other players stayed in their dugout.  Weatherford Head Coach and Pitching Coach along with North Central coaches assisting in breaking up the fight.
Prichard and Kayea discussed what had occurred and then conferenced with the coaches to notify them would happen.
Kayea asked Jeff Lightfoot, Head Coach for Weatherford if they were filming the game.  He said they were streaming the game.  Kayea asked the coaches to view the video to gather all the necessary information to give to the conference and the assignor, John Brammer.

Source: https://twitter.com/JBristolKHOU/status/1517254781403860994?s=20&t=lR5p_2wE-RbB76BUP2BiIw
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

faunch

Quote from: DuffMan on April 22, 2022, 08:42:42 AM
Yikes!  :o

Since we've segued into baseball, we've had a interesting scenario this spring.

Our son is playing travel baseball for the first time this summer.  We struggled to have someone take the reigns as a head coach.  I have helped coach the past few years, but I didn't play more than a couple of years of youth baseball, so there is no way I was going to volunteer.

Finally, one of the other dads agreed to it--he's not my first choice, but I guess he is better than not having a season.  Well, with a head coach in place, we got several volunteers to assistant coach: one grandpa of a player who recently retired after 30+ years on the Gopher's baseball staff and a dad who was an all-Big Ten shortstop for the Gophers and played in the minor leagues.  Quite the turnaround for a team that struggled to get a coach!

I learned so much from them last night alone.  :o
Imagine being the dad that begrudgingly "volunteered" to coach. The grandpa and short probably have more baseball knowledge in their pinky finger than the "head coach" will ever know.


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

faunch

In the 2nd inning, #25 Phillips for North Central and the starting pitcher for Weatherford College, Siravo #31, exchanged words after Phillips struck out.
Home Plate Umpire, Keith Prichard didn't hear what was said because of the crowd and strong winds but walked over to the NCTC dugout and told them to knock it off and then walked over to the pitcher Siravo and told him to knock it off.


Should have tossed them on the spot.



"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

DuffMan

Quote from: faunch on April 22, 2022, 03:22:34 PM
Imagine being the dad that begrudgingly "volunteered" to coach. The grandpa and short probably have more baseball knowledge in their pinky finger than the "head coach" will ever know.

Certainly, but we're benefitting from it.  Head coach can take care of much of the administrative stuff, and we get some top-notch technical instruction from assistants.  These boys lucked out!

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

SagatagSam

Quote from: faunch on April 22, 2022, 03:26:38 PM
In the 2nd inning, #25 Phillips for North Central and the starting pitcher for Weatherford College, Siravo #31, exchanged words after Phillips struck out.
Home Plate Umpire, Keith Prichard didn't hear what was said because of the crowd and strong winds but walked over to the NCTC dugout and told them to knock it off and then walked over to the pitcher Siravo and told him to knock it off.


Should have tossed them on the spot.

I don't know if they should have tossed them on the spot when the umpire couldn't hear what was said. Hindsight is 20/20.
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: faunch on April 22, 2022, 03:26:38 PM
In the 2nd inning, #25 Phillips for North Central and the starting pitcher for Weatherford College, Siravo #31, exchanged words after Phillips struck out.
Home Plate Umpire, Keith Prichard didn't hear what was said because of the crowd and strong winds but walked over to the NCTC dugout and told them to knock it off and then walked over to the pitcher Siravo and told him to knock it off.


Should have tossed them on the spot.

I don't know if they should have tossed them on the spot when the umpire couldn't hear what was said. Hindsight is 20/20.

Yeah, that would have been abuse of authority.  In HINDSIGHT it would have avoided great unpleasantness later - but at the time would have been unjustified.

OzJohnnie

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 22, 2022, 02:19:16 PM
But I hope we can all agree that no level of verbal taunting can justify the violence of the pitcher.

Just because it's fun... Buzz Aldrin says, "Hi."

Ex-astronaut escapes assault charge



  

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: OzJohnnie on April 22, 2022, 06:31:13 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 22, 2022, 02:19:16 PM
But I hope we can all agree that no level of verbal taunting can justify the violence of the pitcher.

Just because it's fun... Buzz Aldrin says, "Hi."

Ex-astronaut escapes assault charge

Nice one! ;D

But it appears that Mr. Sibrel went beyond just verbal taunting!

repete

First play of Montana St. spring game .... 40-yard pass to Ravi Alston.

Available on ESPN Plus.

Texas Ole

Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on April 22, 2022, 01:34:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 22, 2022, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on April 22, 2022, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 21, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on April 21, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Only in Texas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516860888766193664


According to CNN, so many players were suspended for 2 games (for actions after the assault) that the next two games will have to be forfeited by the team whose player was mugged due to lack of available players.  The assailant has been kicked off the team and is likely to be kicked out of school.

Alas, this sort of thing is NOT only in Texas. ::)

Wowzer.
I'd be curious what precipitated this. Is the pitcher just THAT much of a hothead? I have to imagine there's more to the story. Obviously, there's no taunting or other provocation that would justify what the pitcher did, but I think there's more to the story.

I'm just curious--that's all.

This was my first thought as well when I saw it yesterday. It doesn't look like the hitter does anything. Home run trot is pretty normal. I assume there had to be some history between those players, or the pitcher is just a nut job.

you can see the base umpire gesturing towards the hitter when he is between 2nd and 3rd base. It seems like the umpire may have been in the process of ejecting the batter for something he said to the pitcher when the pitcher snaps and attacks the guy.

A reporter in Houston got ahold of the Umpire's game report and posted it to Twitter. It reads:

In the 2nd inning, #25 Phillips for North Central and the starting pitcher for Weatherford College, Siravo #31, exchanged words after Phillips struck out.
Home Plate Umpire, Keith Prichard didn't hear what was said because of the crowd and strong winds but walked over to the NCTC dugout and told them to knock it off and then walked over to the pitcher Siravo and told him to knock it off.
Top of the 6th inning:   2 outs     Runner on 1st'      3 -1 count    North Central at bat
#25 Phillips for North Central hits a 2 run home run.  As he was rounding the bases between 2nd and 3rd Phillips yells out to Weatherford's pitcher, "F--k You".
Sam Kayea, Base Umpire, pointed at Phillips and said, "If you want to stay in this game, shut your mouth."  Phillips did not say another word after that.  As Phillips rounded third, Woodwards (sic) #20, the pitcher for Weatherford violently tackled Phillips.

The North Central players cleared their bench, and the North Central bullpen came running to the field.  There were two North Central players that had nothing to do with the fight; the lead runner Acinger #20 and the on deck batter Huspen #4.
Five Weatherford players left their positions.  The catcher from Weatherford, #10 Stark, left his position to help pull players off that were fighting Woodward but did not throw any punches.
Additional Weatherford players, 3rd baseman Merka #4, shortstop Penoley #12, and 1st baseman Villeneuve #28 ran  over but did not actively participate in the fight.
The other players stayed in their dugout.  Weatherford Head Coach and Pitching Coach along with North Central coaches assisting in breaking up the fight.
Prichard and Kayea discussed what had occurred and then conferenced with the coaches to notify them would happen.
Kayea asked Jeff Lightfoot, Head Coach for Weatherford if they were filming the game.  He said they were streaming the game.  Kayea asked the coaches to view the video to gather all the necessary information to give to the conference and the assignor, John Brammer.

Source: https://twitter.com/JBristolKHOU/status/1517254781403860994?s=20&t=lR5p_2wE-RbB76BUP2BiIw

I've heard from a few people that know those involved in the game.  Apparently there were some MLB scouts in the stands looking at the pitcher.  I believe he has signed with UH for next year.  Before and during the game there was a lot of trash talking, and as we can see it escalated.  Just so much stupidity with it.

Also in Texas there are 2 sports seasons: football and spring football.  Maybe he just forgot that he was playing baseball and not preparing for spring drills.