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SagatagSam

Gustavus sweeps the first two spring sports championships--Tennis (for the 38th year in a row) and baseball--and leaps to a five point lead in the Durenberger Trophy standings. The only problem is that the Gusties' track and field team is not traditionally strong and the Johnnies and Royals are expected to compete for the outdoor track and field championship.

This one will come down to the wire. Probably no margin of victory more than one point either way. Co-Champions a very real possibility.



The Gusties don't have to win the outdoor championship to take home the Durenberger. Bethel is still in it mathematically (technically, I guess). Here are some scenarios:

Gustavus takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-Gustavus places fifth or higher; OR
-SJU places no greater than five spots higher than Gustavus AND Bethel places no greater than nine spots ahead of Gustavus

SJU takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-SJU places at least five or more spots higher than Gustavus AND no more than four spots behind Bethel

Bethel takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-Bethel places at least five spots ahead of SJU AND nine spots ahead of Gustavus. (unlikely)

My prediction is that Bethel eeks out the outdoor championship for the second consecutive year, Johnnies finish second, and Gustavus is a sixth/seventh place team.

Here are some made up numbers for the likelihood of outcomes:
Gustavus wins outright: 20%
Gustavus and SJU share Durenberger: 65%
SJU wins outright: 15%
Three way tie: <0.001%
Bethel wins outright: <0.000001%
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: SagatagSam on May 06, 2025, 02:56:08 PMGustavus sweeps the first two spring sports championships--Tennis (for the 38th year in a row) and baseball--and leaps to a five point lead in the Durenberger Trophy standings. The only problem is that the Gusties' track and field team is not traditionally strong and the Johnnies and Royals are expected to compete for the outdoor track and field championship.

This one will come down to the wire. Probably no margin of victory more than one point either way. Co-Champions a very real possibility.



The Gusties don't have to win the outdoor championship to take home the Durenberger. Bethel is still in it mathematically (technically, I guess). Here are some scenarios:

Gustavus takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-Gustavus places fifth or higher; OR
-SJU places no greater than five spots higher than Gustavus AND Bethel places no greater than nine spots ahead of Gustavus

SJU takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-SJU places at least five or more spots higher than Gustavus AND no more than four spots behind Bethel

Bethel takes home a share of the Durenberger if:
-Bethel places at least five spots ahead of SJU AND nine spots ahead of Gustavus. (unlikely)

My prediction is that Bethel eeks out the outdoor championship for the second consecutive year, Johnnies finish second, and Gustavus is a sixth/seventh place team.

Here are some made up numbers for the likelihood of outcomes:
Gustavus wins outright: 20%
Gustavus and SJU share Durenberger: 65%
SJU wins outright: 15%
Three way tie: <0.001%
Bethel wins outright: <0.000001%

Interesting stuff for off-season reading - thanks!

So bethel really shot themselves in the foot by not sweeping St. Mary's in the last baseball set of games - as I'm pretty sure that would have made them regular season champs - as they'd have been tied with Gustavus on record - but swept them in the 2 game set?


SagatagSam

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on May 06, 2025, 03:15:02 PMInteresting stuff for off-season reading - thanks!

So bethel really shot themselves in the foot by not sweeping St. Mary's in the last baseball set of games - as I'm pretty sure that would have made them regular season champs - as they'd have been tied with Gustavus on record - but swept them in the 2 game set?

It's an extra point left on the table for sure. But, like in any game, the first quarter matters just as much for the final score as the fourth quarter. I'm sure you could look back at the season and say "man, the basketball performance really killed us."

Or, more importantly for Bethel, not having a swimming and diving program really handicaps them. That's at least a couple of points left on the table.
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

BiggieSmalls

Quote from: SagatagSam on May 06, 2025, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on May 06, 2025, 03:15:02 PMInteresting stuff for off-season reading - thanks!

So bethel really shot themselves in the foot by not sweeping St. Mary's in the last baseball set of games - as I'm pretty sure that would have made them regular season champs - as they'd have been tied with Gustavus on record - but swept them in the 2 game set?

It's an extra point left on the table for sure. But, like in any game, the first quarter matters just as much for the final score as the fourth quarter. I'm sure you could look back at the season and say "man, the basketball performance really killed us."

Or, more importantly for Bethel, not having a swimming and diving program really handicaps them. That's at least a couple of points left on the table.

I'd be surprised if Bethel ever added swimming and diving. It looks like the basketball team's struggles this year hurt the most.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: BiggieSmalls on May 07, 2025, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: SagatagSam on May 06, 2025, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on May 06, 2025, 03:15:02 PMInteresting stuff for off-season reading - thanks!

So bethel really shot themselves in the foot by not sweeping St. Mary's in the last baseball set of games - as I'm pretty sure that would have made them regular season champs - as they'd have been tied with Gustavus on record - but swept them in the 2 game set?

It's an extra point left on the table for sure. But, like in any game, the first quarter matters just as much for the final score as the fourth quarter. I'm sure you could look back at the season and say "man, the basketball performance really killed us."

Or, more importantly for Bethel, not having a swimming and diving program really handicaps them. That's at least a couple of points left on the table.

I'd be surprised if Bethel ever added swimming and diving. It looks like the basketball team's struggles this year hurt the most.

Yeah - I can't see that happening...would either require a significant capital investment - or arrangements for some sort of off-site facility, plus staffing...I would have a hard time believing it would draw any or many additional students.

Hopefully someone can right the ship in hoops.  They went from being a regular top 5 team, with the occasional ability to challenge for the top spot, to being far down the standings pretty quickly when Novak left.

hazzben

It was the second half of the season basketball collapse that killed us. Injuries and a player getting kicked off (IIRC) played a role in the 10 game skid to end the year. Sounds like there's been fantastic national interest in the job from conversations I had last week.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: hazzben on May 08, 2025, 11:28:43 AMIt was the second half of the season basketball collapse that killed us. Injuries and a player getting kicked off (IIRC) played a role in the 10 game skid to end the year. Sounds like there's been fantastic national interest in the job from conversations I had last week.

Yeah, that's true this year - but unfortunately they haven't really been a strong team at all in the Filzen era.  I've met him, and like him quite a bit, but for whatever reason he couldn't get too much going in his relatively short tenure.  Their best season with him was 23-24 at 13-13.  The rest were losing records.

OzJohnnie

The Hawks continue to win despite not playing great football. 7-2 at this point and now they head to Darwin next weekend to play the Gold Coast Suns in humidity as thick as pea soup.
  

SagatagSam

The MIAC Outdoor Track & Field Championships were a high drama affair in a slugfest for the top spot.  Bethel eeks out a win by a half point over SJU for their second consecutive outdoor crown. Gustavus puts together just enough to finish fifth and secure its first Durenberger Trophy since the 2003-04 school year (sixth overall).

Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

SagatagSam

Quote from: SagatagSam on Yesterday at 10:41:32 AMThe MIAC Outdoor Track & Field Championships were a high drama affair in a slugfest for the top spot.  Bethel eeks out a win by a half point over SJU for their second consecutive outdoor crown. Gustavus puts together just enough to finish fifth and secure its first Durenberger Trophy since the 2003-04 school year (sixth overall).



Johnnies look to shore up these standings next year by securing the return of Tudor Flintham, former Johnnie soccer star who led the Gusties soccer program for seven seasons*, taking home four regular season MIAC crowns, one MIAC Playoff title, five trips to the NCAA tournament (including one Elite Eight appearance in 2022).

*includes 2020 COVID season, so six regular non-COVID seasons
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: SagatagSam on Yesterday at 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on Yesterday at 10:41:32 AMThe MIAC Outdoor Track & Field Championships were a high drama affair in a slugfest for the top spot.  Bethel eeks out a win by a half point over SJU for their second consecutive outdoor crown. Gustavus puts together just enough to finish fifth and secure its first Durenberger Trophy since the 2003-04 school year (sixth overall).



Johnnies look to shore up these standings next year by securing the return of Tudor Flintham, former Johnnie soccer star who led the Gusties soccer program for seven seasons*, taking home four regular season MIAC crowns, one MIAC Playoff title, five trips to the NCAA tournament (including one Elite Eight appearance in 2022).

*includes 2020 COVID season, so six regular non-COVID seasons

I'm going to claim the SAS championship for BU.  Way to go Royals! (Swimming Adjusted Score)

SagatagSam

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on Yesterday at 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on Yesterday at 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on Yesterday at 10:41:32 AMThe MIAC Outdoor Track & Field Championships were a high drama affair in a slugfest for the top spot.  Bethel eeks out a win by a half point over SJU for their second consecutive outdoor crown. Gustavus puts together just enough to finish fifth and secure its first Durenberger Trophy since the 2003-04 school year (sixth overall).



Johnnies look to shore up these standings next year by securing the return of Tudor Flintham, former Johnnie soccer star who led the Gusties soccer program for seven seasons*, taking home four regular season MIAC crowns, one MIAC Playoff title, five trips to the NCAA tournament (including one Elite Eight appearance in 2022).

*includes 2020 COVID season, so six regular non-COVID seasons

I'm going to claim the SAS championship for BU.  Way to go Royals! (Swimming Adjusted Score)

Augsburg is going to claim 8th on the basis of their WAS (Wrestling Added Score).
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

BDB

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