FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Pat Coleman · October 27, 2025, 10:26:29 AM

Indeed, Chapman hosts the title game, according to their game story from Saturday night.

olddog · October 27, 2025, 11:31:30 AM

Last week.

I had the LV game on one of my TVs very much improved, PP is going backwards. QB play is horrible, O line is equally as bad. LV played CMS super tough two weeks ago. Nice to see a squad of frosh and sophs improving.

Chapman and CMS had that one on too, I just don't get how UR plays so poorly against CU, but CMS can move the ball on them. A decent run game is an issue for CU. If CLU or UR can run the ball on CU, they have a chance in the championship game.

UR and the Regals, I cannot remember a UR team that can look good one series and the next looks like Whittier on their way out. Thank god for UR defense, the Regals qb got hot, but UR was able to fend them off. Why in the OT the Regals kept holding us in the endzone is beyond me, I like the isolation of our big WR in the endzone, in OT.
UR still only has a couple guys blocking for the run game. I think I would push footwork more than weight lifting in the off season. Proof of my point, CLU started 4 linemen over 300# and they were not 6'5". Their slow feet made it tough for the Regals to run the ball and QB was flushed almost every pass. I will take a 6' 260# guy with some quickness over these bodies we are seeing.

MonroviaCat · October 27, 2025, 12:18:37 PM

Got busy Saturday night watching baseball and neglected to check-in on the SCIAC games. Looks like I missed a crazy night!!! LaVerne has been knocking on the door the last few weeks (had a lead vs Pomona at halftime in the first meeting) and it's good to see them finally get that win. Much like the NWC, the difference between the top of the SCIAC and bottom of SCIAC are not as far apart as they have been in recent times. Things may separate again when teams aren't having to double up--they always say that it's hard to beat the same team twice, right?

that guy 31 · October 27, 2025, 12:39:37 PM

Good for ULV! They've been close and finally broke the door down.

I'm shocked that Claremont was able to run the ball that effectively vs Chapman.

Assuming the tie-breaker is quarters lead in head-to-head, CLU controls their destiny and their game with CMS becomes a big deal. If they can get by the Stags you have to like their chances against a Pomona team that has been decimated by injuries in the 2nd part of the season. Stags also get Redlands the next week so a couple shots at playing spoiler. Bulldogs can't overlook what now seems to be an ascending ULV squad in what has the makings of a trap game.

Chapman has a few weeks to try to get their footing back after not looking particularly impressive in some close victories. Currently not feeling too optimistic about the SCIAC being anything other than a sacrificial lamb in the 1st round of the playoffs.

MonroviaCat · October 27, 2025, 01:26:18 PM

SCIAC champ is often the sacrificial lamb but I think this year they *could* get by a first round matchup against the NWC champ. We definitely aren't seeing a dominant team up north this year.

RFBredux · October 27, 2025, 01:46:15 PM

3 wins in a row for Redlands. Have to give credit where it's due in finding ways to win and it's always nice to beat Cal Lu in Thousand Oaks. Looking forward to this dumb round robin system being gone next season.

SoCalLance · October 27, 2025, 02:42:25 PM

I personally like the POD system... It keeps teams in the hunt longer. I hope they keep it once Whittier and APU get introduced into the league next year. If the league decides to go back to the old structure, Chapman would have already won the conference based off of this season with the games played/remaining schedule.

RFBredux · October 27, 2025, 04:27:07 PM

Quote from: SoCalLance on October 27, 2025, 02:42:25 PMI personally like the POD system... It keeps teams in the hunt longer. I hope they keep it once Whittier and APU get introduced into the league next year. If the league decides to go back to the old structure, Chapman would have already won the conference based off of this season with the games played/remaining schedule.

Playing teams twice in one season is stupid. The SCIAC will be back to 8 teams and let's hope Occidental wises up and restarts their program as well.

MonroviaCat · October 27, 2025, 04:31:03 PM

I agree with you both! Playing teams twice is dumb but keeping teams in the hunt longer makes things much more interesting....SCIAC just needs to add more teams to accomplish both!

that guy 31 · October 27, 2025, 05:07:05 PM

I think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

olddog · October 28, 2025, 11:23:21 AM

Quote from: that guy 31 on October 24, 2025, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: PickSixNick on October 24, 2025, 11:30:38 AMThis is my understanding of the tie breaker. If it is based off the same rules when the sun and surf started, first it is overall SCIAC record. Second, it is head to head. Third, it is quarters led head to head. Fourth, I believe it is quarters led within your pod (I am not 100% sure about this one).

That being said, Cal Lu led all 4 quarters against UR this year. In theory, they would either need to tie or lead at least 1 quarter in their upcoming game against UR.

I have been to them all...and all of the NWC stadiums and most of the superior NAIA schools out west.

SCIAC

Oxy, my memory of the stadium is students standing up and being disrespectful during the National Anthem, and students throwing American flags away. I did not like the stadium since its only one side and the concrete stands are not very tall.
Whittier, looks impressive from the field, but again, one side stands and I am not a fan. Once can get a high angle. Be ready to walk, poor parking.
Cal Lu, I wont be redundant, love how close to the field one can get.
Pomona, liked it before the remodel and can sit close, ...the roots of an oak tree in the N end zone was classic lib thinking. Tree over human injuries.
CMS, I am not a fan, feels like an old HS stadium, visitor stands are so dinky and the school can afford to do better. Press box is horrible etc..
Chapman, I like it because the stands sit up and you can get a great angle, love the fact it sits on a parking garage. Great lighting too.
The Runner, best grass many ever will play on...sunsets are spectacular
La Verne, nothing good about it, dinky, no visitor side, its tight seating, can get good angle, its horrible.
APU, I wonder where they will play, Citrus College is a typical JC stadium and their home field is pretty worn out, not very impressive. Small home side etc...

Below are my SCIAC predictions this week.

UR: 17, CLU: 30
I don't think the tie breakers will matter. I see CLU winning this game comfortably.

CMS: 13, CU: 28
CMS has a good DL, and will need a big game from #44 to stay competitive. I believe CU's OL will be able to move CMS off the ball and have too many weapons at the skill positions for CMS to hang around.

ULV: 21, PP: 24
ULV has looked much better the past couple games and PP's offense has been struggling, but I believe PP has better players and will win a close one.

Thanks for the info PickSix. Bulldogs are going to have to get off to a fast start and keep it going!

On the subject of the stadiums, The Runner in the evening is a great venue. Zinda Field at CMS is super nice in the afternoon. The view from the home stands with the mountains in the background is stunning. It is a great place to see games, especially when the weather starts to cool off.

The Chapman facility is outstanding. I have not been to Cal Lu since they moved into the current facility but have heard really good things about it. Best part about Pomona is the tree behind the goal posts that is very close to being in play. ULV is a pretty little campus and they've done a lot of work since I've been there. I love the brick building behind the north end zone. Are the tents still there?

wally_wabash · October 28, 2025, 01:11:43 PM

Quote from: that guy 31 on October 27, 2025, 05:07:05 PMI think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

I don't think anybody loves it, but the SCIAC has probably made the best of a terrible situation. Divisions go away next year, so hopefully that's the end of that.

Dr. Doolittle · October 28, 2025, 02:15:38 PM

Congrats to La Verne. They played well the last 3 games, and finally won a game--first since 2023. CLU-Redlands game good game, but Redlands better coached and won. Chapman will win conference and lose big in playoffs.

that guy 31 · October 28, 2025, 05:13:57 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 28, 2025, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: that guy 31 on October 27, 2025, 05:07:05 PMI think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

I don't think anybody loves it, but the SCIAC has probably made the best of a terrible situation. Divisions go away next year, so hopefully that's the end of that.

I agree with this take. I think at the time the SCIAC went to this system they were trying to keep SCIAC football alive while programs were bailing. In that way it accomplished its mission but I think harm was done and it will take time to build back.

Azusa and Whittier coming back is huge and hopefully in a few years we'll all look back and laugh at the division system once we're on the other side of the rebuild.

Gray Fox · October 28, 2025, 06:10:40 PM

Quote from: that guy 31 on October 28, 2025, 05:13:57 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 28, 2025, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: that guy 31 on October 27, 2025, 05:07:05 PMI think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

I don't think anybody loves it, but the SCIAC has probably made the best of a terrible situation. Divisions go away next year, so hopefully that's the end of that.

I agree with this take. I think at the time the SCIAC went to this system they were trying to keep SCIAC football alive while programs were bailing. In that way it accomplished its mission but I think harm was done and it will take time to build back.

Azusa and Whittier coming back is huge and hopefully in a few years we'll all look back and laugh at the division system once we're on the other side of the rebuild.

Many years ago the Pomona president wanted to be like NESCAC schools and cut the number of games to eight (what NESCAC did at that time). The SCIAC teams ended up playing one of the SCIAC opponents twice. Each contest between those two counted as half a game. Any game with Pomona was not counted. Eventually the presidents forced them back in line.