NESCAC

[EnmoreCat]

Quite excited to see the power of the Mammoths brand even after being knocked out:

"For example, lots of observers here would probably agree that (e.g.) Amherst just plays that way most of the time. Their players are apparently taught to foul people whenever physical contact will produce an advantage."

"Amherst are thugs and the coach either teaches it (at worst) or allows it (at best)."

Very keen to see the evidence for "teaching" any of this, essentially because it doesn't exist, but I understand, the use of "apparently" or "(at worst)" prevents it from being an actual allegation.

Yes, Amherst fouls, I provided enough foul counts to confirm that.  I can't remember any opposition zeroes in any of the games I watched over the last three years.

 

 

[Bucket]

No, I haven't seen that. All i was saying is that's unacceptable if it were to happen. What you're describing doesn't really seem like a huge deal.

I don't really get why stuff like this gets dragged on to these threads. It happens all the time - like when the Amherst player grabbed his crotch at the Midd parents -- guess what, nothing really happened and Amherst still went on to a national final. It doesn't make it right but if you care about it this much you should email the school lol. The player got a red card - what else do you want? Do you want to hear that he was talked to privately and that he promises to never do it again?

I want to talk about the matchups. And with that - I am taking Camels over Bowdoin and Messiah over Tufts.

These kinds of incidents happen every season - it's really not that serious.

People on the boards love to turn certain schools into the "bad guys," but in reality, I can think of sportsmanship issues from pretty much every team in the conference. Some programs more than others, sure, but at the end of the day emotions run high in knockout games, especially for seniors whose careers are on the line.

Not excusing violent behavior or outright verbal abuse. But the late hit from the Midd guy in the final seconds isn't great and it's also not some huge scandal. If you have actually played college soccer at a high level you know this stuff happens.

There's sportsmanship things from every team, sure, as it has been well documented on these pages for years. But who have you seen assault an official? That's actually insane to see.

I don't mind smack talking, physicality and things of that nature but there's obviously a line. The "scandal" here is the post game antics. The coaching staff should be reprimanded as well. Not a great look.

Did you see someone assault an official? Do you have evidence of this assault?

The video clearly shows him two hand pushing the official to the ground.

Could you provide the link? I have seen nothing that has showed what you describe. I'm not trolling, honest.

I was going by what the announcer described—Vera going after several Midd players, jawing, with the 4th official attempting to get between Vera and a Midd player. The announcer described the Midd player making contact with the official, who went to the ground.

I am not excusing any behavior.  From the way it was described, what transpired was a heated instance of players interacting, a ref trying to break it up, one player making contact with the ref, who went down. This is not excusable, and the player was reprimanded appropriately, with a red card. However, this is far different than an assault, which is obviously a criminal act, which is why I strongly question such language usage.

[Bucket]

It's the Middlebury Coaching Invitational in Medford tomorrow as Kyle Dezotell (Midd '03) and the Tufts Jumbos take on Scott Wiercinski (Middlebury '99) and the Bowdoin Polar Bears. (For added flavor, top Bowdoin assistant Andrew Banadda is a 2009 Midd grad, and played alongside Alex Elias, current Panther head coach, on Midd's 2007 National Championship team.)

[northman]

Good recollection of history, Bucket.  My son entered Bowdoin in 2008 and played against Middlebury while Andrew Banadda was a Panther for his last two years.  Alex Elias graduated in 2008 and was a teammate of Casey Ftorek (son of legendary NHL player Robbie Ftorek) when Middlebury won the national championship in 2007.  That was the year that Midd won the championship without scoring a goal in regulation or OT in the semis or final!  They won both games on penalties!