BB: Pool C

[Ralph Turner]

read the D3baseball.com prediction.  Pool B: wash U and UWW

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/2019-playoff-projections



For archival purposes...

Coe instead of Ramapo
Wooster instead of Hendrix
Baldwin-Wallace instead of UW-LaCrosse

[cubs]

What team could possibly keep UWW from B?  Not Lax or CWRU

Seems to me that WashU and UWW are locks for B

I wasn't sure if the advantage that Case Western Reserve had in terms of their SOS might be enough to "trump" the difference in records.  Based on what the staff put out in their projections, apparently it doesn't....

[Ralph Turner]

Pool C

Babson
Concordia-Chicago
Cortland
Rowan
Salisbury
Southern Maine
Trinity CT
Wheaton MA
Heidelberg
Kean
Texas Lutheran
CWRU
Wooster
Penn State - Harrisburg
Baldwin Wallace
Coe

[cubs]

Disappointed to see La Crosse left on the outside looking in this year....  I really would have liked to see how the trio of Pronchinske/McMahon/Cook would have done in the new four-team Regional format and possibly Super Regionals.

[Ralph Turner]

Pool C Performance in the Regionals

Team	Reg. Record	.	.	.	.	.	......	Super Regional	.	.	.	Natls
Babson	3-1	WvA	WvC	LvC	WvC	.	.	Cortland	WvC	WvC	.	JHU
Concordia-Chicago	3-1	WvA	LvC	WvA	WvC	.	.	Webster	LvA	LvA	.	.
Cortland	3-0	WvA	WvA	WvA	.	.	.	Babson	LvC	LvC	.	.
Rowan	2-2	WvA	LvA	WvC	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Salisbury	1-2	LvA	WvA	LvC	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Southern Maine	3-2	LvA	WvA	WvA	WvA	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.
Trinity CT	3-2	WvA	LvC	WvA	WvC	LvC	.	.	.	.	.	.
Wheaton MA	2-2	WvA	LvA	WvA	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Heidelberg	3-0	WvA	WvA	WvA	.	.	.	Wooster	WvC	WvC	.	B-SC
Kean	2-2	WvA	WvA	LvA	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Texas Lutheran	0-2	LvA	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
CWRU	2-2	WvA	WvA	LvC	LvC	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Wooster	3-1	LvA	WvA	WvC	WvC	.	.	Heidelberg	LvC	LvC	.	.
PSU-Harrisburg	1-2	LvA	WvA	LvA	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Baldwin-Wallace	2-2	WvA	WvC	LvC	LvC	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Coe	3-1	WvA	WvB	LvB	WvB	.	.	B-SC	LvA	LvA	.	.
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Total	36-24	.	.	.	.	.	.	6 teams	4-8	.	.	.

Pool C record in Regionals

Pool C versus Pool A    26-15
Pool C versus Pool B     2-1
Pool C versus Pool C     8-8

Total                           36-24

Pool C record in Super-Regionals

Pool C versus Pool A     0-4
Pool C versus Pool C     4-4

[Jim Dixon]

I think you would see this is similar to other years.  If you just look at pool As from conferences that got pool C bids. I expect the results would be closer to even

[Ralph Turner]

Pool C is starting to fill up again this year. The Post season tourneys are determining Pool A bids. (Pool A bids in bold)

SAA -  Birmingham-Southern knocked off ranked Berry.
SCAC - Texas Lutheran knocked off Trinity TX.


https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings

   Central   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Washington U. in St. Louis   24-3   24-3
2   North Central (Illinois)   26-6   26-6
3   Augustana (Illinois)   26-6   26-6
4   Webster   26-6   26-6
5   Coe   25-4   25-4
6   Spalding   22-10   23-12
7   Millikin   20-11   20-11
8   Luther   24-8   24-8
.
Mid-Atlantic   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Penn St.-Abington   18-3   18-3
2   Rowan   19-3   19-3
3   Keystone   17-4   17-4
4   Penn St. Harrisburg   24-6   24-6
5   York (Pennsylvania)   24-6   24-6
6   Immaculata   17-4   17-4
7   DeSales   22-7   22-7
8   Marymount (Virginia)   15-4   15-4
9   Stevens   21-9   21-9
10   Misericordia   23-7   23-7
UR    Johns Hopkins Centennial 11-3  11-3
.
Mideast   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Adrian   24-6   24-6
2   Washington and Jefferson   31-1   31-1
3   Denison   19-10   19-10
4   Mount Union   24-6   24-6
5   Transylvania   24-9   24-9
6   Marietta   21-3   21-3
7   Wooster   20-8   20-8
8   Case Western Reserve   18-8   18-8
9   La Roche   15-1   15-1
10   Ohio Northern   18-13   18-13
.
Midwest   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Wisconsin-Whitewater   25-4   25-4
2   Gustavus Adolphus   18-3   18-3
3   St. Thomas (Minnesota)   18-5   18-5
4   Aurora   30-4   30-4
5   Northwestern-St. Paul   24-5   25-8
6   Wisconsin-Stevens Point   22-7   22-7
7   Saint John's (Minnesota)   25-8   25-8
8   Saint Mary's (Minnesota)   21-10   21-10
.
New England   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Eastern Connecticut St.   26-4   26-4
2   Southern Maine   19-8   19-8
3   Wheaton (Massachusetts)   12-2   12-2
4   Babson   10-2   10-2
5   Rhode Island   19-8   19-8
6   Tufts   10-3   10-3
7   Salve Regina   10-4-2001   10-4-2001
8   Mitchell- NECC   16-4   19-6
9   Endicott   15-6   15-6
10   Roger Williams   20-11   20-11
11   Amherst   8-3   8-3
UR    Johnson & Wales GNAC  12-13  7-5
.
New York   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Oswego State   17-1   17-1
2   SUNY Brockport   13-4   13-4
3   Rochester (New York)   20-7   20-7
4   SUNY Cortland   20-4   20-4
5   St. John Fisher   24-5   24-5
6   St. Joseph's (Long Island)   15-7   15-7
7   Merchant Marine- Skyline   13-3   13-3
.
South   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Salisbury   19-3   19-3
2   N.C. Wesleyan   29-6   29-6
3   Berry   32-9   32-9
4   Shenandoah   26-8   26-8
5   LaGrange   20-7   20-7
6   Randolph-Macon   22-9   22-9
7   Christopher Newport   18-8   18-8
8   Birmingham Southern- SAA   25-14   25-14
.
West   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Trinity (Texas)   22-5   25-5
2   Centenary (Louisiana)         27-9   30-9
3   Pacific (Oregon)   25-11   25-11
4   Texas-Dallas   23-10   24-10
5   Texas Lutheran- SCAC   21-9   25-11
6   Williamette   27-13   27-13
7   East Texas Baptist   22-13   26-14

[Ralph Turner]

Third Regional Rankings  (Remember, only 6 Pool B/C bids)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings
18 conferences have awarded their Pool A bid (in Bold).
There are 24 to go.

Central   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Washington U. in St. Louis   28-3   28-3
2   North Central (Illinois)   33-7   33-7
3   Augustana (Illinois)   33-7   33-7
4   Webster   33-6   33-6
5   Coe   32-5   32-5
6   Spalding   28-11   29-13
7   Millikin   27-13   27-13
8   Luther   27-13   27-13
.
Mid-Atlantic   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Rowan   23-4   23-4
2   Keystone   21-4   21-4  CSAC
3   Penn St. Harrisburg   28-7   28-7  NEAC
4   York (Pennsylvania)   28-6   28-6  Commonwealth
5   Penn St.-Abington   20-6   20-6
6   Marymount (Virginia)   17-5   17-5
7   Misericordia   26-8   26-8  Freedom
8   Immaculata   18-5   18-5
9   Stevens   24-11   24-11
10   William Patterson   27-6   27-6
NR Johns Hopkins  Centennial
.
Mideast   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Adrian   30-7   30-7
2   Washington and Jefferson   36-1   36-1  Pres AC
3   Marietta   32-4   32-4
4   Denison   21-10   21-10
5   Wooster   24-11   24-11
6   Transylvania   28-10   28-10
7   Mount Union   27-11   27-11
8   Case Western Reserve   20-10   20-10
9   La Roche   19-1   19-1
10   Franklin   25-12   25-12
.
Midwest   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   St. Thomas (Minnesota)   26-5   26-5
2   Wisconsin-Whitewater   34-5   34-5
3   Gustavus Adolphus   26-5   26-5
4   Aurora   35-6   35-6
5   Northwestern-St. Paul   28-7   29-10
6   Wisconsin-Stevens Point   30-9   30-9
7   Saint John's (Minnesota)   29-11   29-11
8   Saint Mary's (Minnesota)   25-13   25-13
.
New England   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Eastern Connecticut St.   31-4   31-4
2   Southern Maine   29-8   29-8
3   Wheaton (Massachusetts)   16-3   16-3
4   Babson   13-4   13-4
5   Rhode Island   25-11   25-11
6   Mitchell   19-4   22-6  NECC
7   Salve Regina   12-4-2001   12-4-2001  CCC
8   Amherst   10-3   10-3
9   Endicott   15-6   15-6
10   Tufts   11-6   11-6
11   Roger Williams   20-11   20-11
NR   Johnson & Wales - GNAC
NR  Salem State  -MASCAC
.
New York   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Oswego State   23-3   23-3
2   Rochester (New York)   24-8   24-8  LL
3   SUNY Cortland   25-5   25-5
4   St. John Fisher   29-5   29-5
5   SUNY Brockport   18-7   18-7
6   Merchant Marine   16-3   16-3  Skyline
7   Old Westbury   13-6   13-6
.
South   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Salisbury   23-4   23-4
2   Shenandoah   30-9   30-9
3   N.C. Wesleyan   31-7   31-7
4   Berry   32-9   32-9
5   LaGrange   23-7   23-7  USAC
6   Lynchburg   32-12   32-12
7   Birmingham Southern   25-14   25-14  SAA
8   Christopher Newport   22-10   22-10
.
West       In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Trinity (Texas)   25-7   28-7
2   Texas-Dallas   28-10   29-10  ASC
3   Texas Lutheran   24-10   28-12  SCAC
4   Pacific (Oregon)   31-13   31-13  NWC
5   Centenary (Louisiana)   27-11   30-11
6   Williamette   30-15   30-15
7   East Texas Baptist   25-15   29-16

[FSU96]

Mideast region, MIAA:

Unless an earthquake or a hurricane hits southeastern Michigan in the next couple hours, Adrian is going to get a Pool A. They lead Hope 15-0 through the middle of the 4th, after winning yesterday's game 6-5 in 13 innings. Best of three series.

[Ralph Turner]

And so the list of Pool C contenders begins.

#3 seed Centenary LA beat #1 seed Trinity TX in game 7 of the SCAC Post-season Tourney.

Trinity was #1 in the second week Regional Rankings for Region 10.

[cubs]

You can add to this list thanks to the WIAC....

#4 seed UWO mercy-rules Whitewater 17-4 and then #3 seed La Crosse scores five runs in the 9th inning to eliminate the Warhawks from the WIAC Tournament 14-12.

Whitewater was #1 in the second week Regional Rankings for Region 9. 

The one "saving grace" for for the Pool C contenders is that Stevens Point can still snag the WIAC's Pool A bid and they were ranked #2 in the second week Regional Rankings for Region 9.

[Ralph Turner]

+1 for the report

Conspiracy theorists suspect that UWSP will go down in the finals Giving the WAIC a very good chance of getting 3 bids.   

[Ralph Turner]

What is different this year is that there will be 10 teams on the board when Pool C starts up. There will be less "blocking" among the contenders, just because some teams that have been involved in blocking *** have been spread to other regions, as we go from 8 to 10.

*** An example of blocking is that a really strong team (B) is in the rankings, but  team ahead of them (Team A)  beat them once or twice  in regular season, or has a better record among common opponents in that region, but a team from another region on the table (Team C) at the same time may a better record over the Team A. Team C gets the bid and Team A blocks Team B.

I encourage posters to give other examples that have happened to their teams.

[cubs]

+1 for the report

Conspiracy theorists suspect that UWSP will go down in the finals Giving the WAIC a very good chance of getting 3 bids.   

Stevens Point dispatches of UWO 11-5 in the first game today, and UWO turns around and eliminates La Crosse 11-4 in the final game of the day.

Due to the heat, the third game of the day was moved to Saturday since UWO had already played a pair of games today.  Had La Crosse beaten UWO, the third game would've been played as scheduled.

This means it's Stevens Point vs UWO tomorrow for the Pool A bid.  UWO needs to win a pair, while Stevens Point just needs to win one game.  Anyone on the Pool C "bubble" will likely be pulling for the Pointers as they are likely in as a Pool C bid should UWO win a pair tomorrow.

[Jack Parkman]

Add Chapman to Pool C. I expect they will host a pod next week but am not sure if it will be 2 or 4 teams. I would guess Trinity will host the other "West" regional that would match with the Chapman regional in the supers. Plenty still to happen between now and tomorrow night.