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Cardinal773

Quote from: USee on November 03, 2025, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 02, 2025, 03:44:36 PM#2 Mount Union  (Wheaton L, 37-29)
#20 Central    (IWU L, 27-18)
#70 UW-Oshkosh    (NCC W, 45-14)
#83 Simpson      (Augie W, 42-41)
#135 UW-Eau Claire  (Carroll L, 29-7)
#151 Ripon      (NPU W, 35-19)
#196 Lakeland    (Carthage W, 51-40)
#205 Rhodes    (WashU W, 49-0)
#226 Rockford    (Elmhurst W, 34-30)
#236 Luther    (Millikin W, 33-3)

 


773-I can't say I understand the point of this. Is it just CCIW results against various teams?


Yep.  Sorry for not providing context.  I saw the list of NPI rankings for our CCIW teams and wondered about the rankings of our OOC opponents.  This is just a gut punch for WashU I think.  I wonder what ranking WashU's OOC opponent would have had to be in order for them to be in the pool C conversation.

I just think WashU is a playoff worthy team and it is disappointing that they won't have a chance to show that.  Then again, their OOC opponent was #205 Rhodes.


Cardinal773

CCIW Players of the Week Against (week 7 of 9):

Team     
Total
  Offensive  Defensive  Special Teams 
Carthage
4
2
2
0
Carroll
4
1
2
1
Millikin
4
2
0
2
Wash U
3
0
1
2
Augie
2
1
2
0
IWU
2
1
0
1
North Park
2
0
0
2
Wheaton
1
0
1
0
Elmhurst
0
0
0
0
North Central
0
0
0
0

CarollFan

#43218
Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 03, 2025, 06:06:49 PM
Quote from: USee on November 03, 2025, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 02, 2025, 03:44:36 PM#2 Mount Union  (Wheaton L, 37-29)
#20 Central    (IWU L, 27-18)
#70 UW-Oshkosh    (NCC W, 45-14)
#83 Simpson      (Augie W, 42-41)
#135 UW-Eau Claire  (Carroll L, 29-7)
#151 Ripon      (NPU W, 35-19)
#196 Lakeland    (Carthage W, 51-40)
#205 Rhodes    (WashU W, 49-0)
#226 Rockford    (Elmhurst W, 34-30)
#236 Luther    (Millikin W, 33-3)

 


773-I can't say I understand the point of this. Is it just CCIW results against various teams?


Yep.  Sorry for not providing context.  I saw the list of NPI rankings for our CCIW teams and wondered about the rankings of our OOC opponents.  This is just a gut punch for WashU I think.  I wonder what ranking WashU's OOC opponent would have had to be in order for them to be in the pool C conversation.

I just think WashU is a playoff worthy team and it is disappointing that they won't have a chance to show that.  Then again, their OOC opponent was #205 Rhodes.



Rhodes is 1-7. The game NPI for that game is currently 55.963. It's like 1.5 points higher than the Elmhurst win. It's like they played Elmhurst twice at home.

A home game against a team ranked as low as 70 or an away win you can go even into 100's and you would have got at least 20 points more. Their best win right now is Carroll away, game NPI is 75.23.

Their best win will be Augie away if they win that game. That will bump up the NPI but not enough. They could have easily been in the hunt but like your pointing out who you play in non-conference and where you play matters.

CarollFan

Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 03, 2025, 06:19:16 PMCCIW Players of the Week Against (week 7 of 9):


Team     
Total
  Offensive  Defensive  Special Teams 
Carthage
4
2
2
0
Carroll
4
1
2
1
Millikin
4
2
0
2
Wash U
3
0
1
2
Augie
2
1
2
0
IWU
2
1
0
1
North Park
2
0
0
2
Wheaton
1
0
1
0
Elmhurst
0
0
0
0
North Central
0
0
0
0

Ok, I'm trying to figure out what Elmhurst having zero tells us because whatever excuse I can use for Elmhurst,  I can use for NCC. ;D

GusD

Quote from: CarollFan on November 03, 2025, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 03, 2025, 06:19:16 PMCCIW Players of the Week Against (week 7 of 9):


Team     
Total
  Offensive  Defensive  Special Teams 
Carthage
4
2
2
0
Carroll
4
1
2
1
Millikin
4
2
0
2
Wash U
3
0
1
2
Augie
2
1
2
0
IWU
2
1
0
1
North Park
2
0
0
2
Wheaton
1
0
1
0
Elmhurst
0
0
0
0
North Central
0
0
0
0

Ok, I'm trying to figure out what Elmhurst having zero tells us because whatever excuse I can use for Elmhurst,  I can use for NCC. ;D

Perhaps the thinking is doing exceedingly well vs Elmhurst is something that's expected as opposed to something that's exceptional. 🤔
Who's the hunter, and who's the game? (Scandal)
Not much between despair and ecstasy (Tim Rice from the musical Chess)

Cardinal773

I would be in peak work avoidance mode if I looked up the big individual stats vs. Elmhurst and compared them to the eventual player of the week award winners for each week.  I need to stop.  I have a d3football statistics problem.

GusD

Quote from: Cardinal773 on November 04, 2025, 08:54:42 AMI would be in peak work avoidance mode if I looked up the big individual stats vs. Elmhurst and compared them to the eventual player of the week award winners for each week.  I need to stop.  I have a d3football statistics problem.

I've always loved statistics. So much so that I took it twice;)
Who's the hunter, and who's the game? (Scandal)
Not much between despair and ecstasy (Tim Rice from the musical Chess)

CarollFan

#43223
Finals

NCC 58 Elmhurst 0
Wheaton 61 Millikin 14
WashU 42 NPU 14
Augie 23 Carthage 3
Carroll 34 IWU 14


Other D3 scores:
UMHB 21  #5 HS 17

UWRF 41 UWL 7

UWP 24  UWS 23 (UWS scored late and went for the win but missed 2 pt conversion with 42 seconds left. Then they got the onside kick and missed a 43 yd FG at the end.)

Ohio Northern 30  #22 Baldwin Wallace 28

#13 CNU 45  #7 Salisbury 42



CarollFan

#43224
Carroll 34 IWU 14 final

IWU's starting QB did not play in this game. IWU still hit a couple big pass plays but was also held to 11 yards rushing on 21 attempts. Carroll had 2 picks to give them 12 on the year and 5 sacks.

On offense Carroll rushed for 238 yards on 40 attempts.
#24 RB Mikey Coleman had 115 yds rushing on 24 attempts.
#45 TE Reed Breckheimer had 100 yards rushing on 8 attempts and 3 TD's.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: CarollFan on November 08, 2025, 04:58:16 PMIWU's starting QB did not play in this game.

That's no minor detail. (Not that you were implying otherwise, of course.) No team in the league is more dependent upon its starting quarterback than Illinois Wesleyan is upon Dermot Smythe.
"When it comes to life, the critical thing is whether you take things for granted or take them with gratitude." ― G.K. Chesterton

Gregory Sager

Didn't see the NPU game in St. Louis; it has been an overwhelmingly busy day for North Park sports. Don't know if I'd care to watch the entire game on demand, but I sure would like to see Jereme Ombogo's 97-yard TD kickoff return.
"When it comes to life, the critical thing is whether you take things for granted or take them with gratitude." ― G.K. Chesterton

CarollFan

#43227
Datacast guys have updated their NPI calculations.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/fb/

They have NCC #4 with CNU #5.
Wheaton #27 with 11th Pool C spot.


CarollFan

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2025, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: CarollFan on November 08, 2025, 04:58:16 PMIWU's starting QB did not play in this game.

That's no minor detail. (Not that you were implying otherwise, of course.) No team in the league is more dependent upon its starting quarterback than Illinois Wesleyan is upon Dermot Smythe.

Yes, today was their lowest point total in a game all season. They have NCC next week.

CarollFan

#43229
NCC had all the game NPI's they are using in their NPI calculation increase except Carthage but they are only using .1 of the Carthage game NPI.

WashU, Carroll, Wheaton, Augie, UWO all game NPI's increased with Carroll and UWO increasing the most. NPU, Millikin and Elmhurst not used in their NPI calculation.

They have IWU this week.