South Region playoffs

[Ralph Turner]

I hope that the World Famous Cowboy Band makes the trip.

That should be a great game.

[wildcat11]

The Mount Union and North Central bracket are something.

When that talking head alluded to a fiscal responsible bracket I knew TX/West Coast was gonna get all thrown together.

[tigerguy]

Will be nice to have playoff football back at EM Stevens Stadium.  The fan support has been outstanding this year and Saturday should be amazing.  It'll also be fun to have a loaded visitor side.

Trinity needs to jazz up the offense a bit to advance.  Special teams and defense have carried the load this year.  The 2nd half against Sewanee yesterday was very promising.  It revealed a lot of depth and a stable of superb quarterbacks (keep an eye on Dez Thomas over the next few years!).

Can't wait for Saturday!

Trinity should be at full strength with their offensive weapons for the first time since week one. Would have liked to see the first team offense play more against Sewanee to knock off the rust, but two special teams touchdowns and a blowout left few offensive plays all together before the backups came in. Hopefully things finally start coming together though.

[MonroviaCat]

The Mount Union and North Central bracket are something.

When that talking head opened up saying alluding to a fiscal responsible bracket I knew TX/West Coast was gonna get all thrown together.

Once I saw St. John's at #1 I knew it, too.  And I'm not saying giving St. John's that spot was a bad call.  I do think they could easily have swapped Mt. Union and Linfield (and the teams in their half of the quads) to reward Linfield for having the tougher SOS and not winning their last game by dumb luck....but what do I know?

[wildcat11]

The Mount Union and North Central bracket are something.

When that talking head opened up saying alluding to a fiscal responsible bracket I knew TX/West Coast was gonna get all thrown together.

Once I saw St. John's at #1 I knew it, too.  And I'm not saying giving St. John's that spot was a bad call.  I do think they could easily have swapped Mt. Union and Linfield (and the teams in their half of the quads) to reward Linfield for having the tougher SOS and not winning their last game by dumb luck....but what do I know?

Having a ball bounce off a defender's head for a last second Hail Mary to beat a 7-2 Baldwin Wallace = Cakewalk to the NCAA Semi's.

[Ralph Turner]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss

Looking forward to this one.


Of course, most of us believe this is not your mother's Trinity team. Coach Urban will have them ready.

[Ralph Turner]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	...	...

[Ralph Turner]

Nice win by Randy Mac.

I really want to see how they do against Del Valley!

[Cowboy2]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	...	...

UMHB also took a game in 2007 against Trinity
https://www.scacsports.com/sports/fball/2007-08/stats/TUNCAA1.HTM

[Ralph Turner]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
(Thanks to Cowboy2. +1)

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	...	...

[Ralph Turner]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
2025 Update

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	17-24	Loss
2023	HSU	20-6	Win
2024	UMHB	22-29	Loss

[Ralph Turner]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
2025 Update

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	17-24	Loss
2023	HSU	20-6	Win
2024	UMHB	22-29	Loss
2025	HSU	(27+pick six 7 = 34)-24	Win

How many other games were "closer than the final score"?

[tigerguy]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
2025 Update

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	17-24	Loss
2023	HSU	20-6	Win
2024	UMHB	22-29	Loss
2025	HSU	(27+pick six 7 = 34)-24	Win

How many other games were "closer than the final score"?

2021: Trinity's 13-3 loss to UMHB in first round. For 58 minutes Trinity held the national champs and #3 offense in the country to only two field goals (I think they missed a third). Down 6-3 with 2:13 left, Trinity held UMHB to what would have been an attempted field goal on 4th and 6 from Trinity's 22, which would have given Trinity one last drive to try and tie. Trinity's player jumped offsides attempting to block the field goal, making it 4th and 1, so UMHB went for it and scored on the ensuing play. I'm pretty sure Urban instructed them to let him score so they could get the ball back, but it made the final score look less close than the game was played. The entire game was a defense masterpiece by both squads.

That is probably the saltiest I have ever been when it comes to the unfair Texas-teams playoff matchups. Trinity's defense was probably the best in the program's history and #2 overall in D3 that year. Their offense was also very good, but it was Tucker Horn's first year as a starter and they couldn't get anything going against a great UMHB front.

After Trinity, UMHB steamrolled through the playoffs and put up 42 against #13 defense BSC, 49 against #12 defense Linfield, 24 against #22 defense UW-Whitewater, and 57 against Defending Champ North Central in the national championship. I know most people know all of this since the game was fairly recent, but I thank you for bringing up this painful topic to allow me to vent some more.

[Ralph Turner]

... which is why many of us consider these 1st and 2nd round games as the "Texas sub-bracket", the winner of which takes on the world.

[crufootball]

I looked up Trinity's games against the ASC in post-season play.
2025 Update

Year........	Team......	Score....	W/L....
1999	HSU	40-33	Win
2000	at HSU	30-33	Loss
2001	UMHB	30-6	Win
2002	UMHB	48-38	Win
2003	at ETBU	41-42	Loss
2004	UMHB	13-32	Loss
2005	UMHB	6-35	Loss
2007	at UMHB	23-52	Loss
2011	McM	16-25	Loss
2021	at UMHB	3-13	Loss
2022	HSU	14-7	Win
2022	UMHB	17-24	Loss
2023	HSU	20-6	Win
2024	UMHB	22-29	Loss
2025	HSU	(27+pick six 7 = 34)-24	Win

How many other games were "closer than the final score"?

2021: Trinity's 13-3 loss to UMHB in first round. For 58 minutes Trinity held the national champs and #3 offense in the country to only two field goals (I think they missed a third). Down 6-3 with 2:13 left, Trinity held UMHB to what would have been an attempted field goal on 4th and 6 from Trinity's 22, which would have given Trinity one last drive to try and tie. Trinity's player jumped offsides attempting to block the field goal, making it 4th and 1, so UMHB went for it and scored on the ensuing play. I'm pretty sure Urban instructed them to let him score so they could get the ball back, but it made the final score look less close than the game was played. The entire game was a defense masterpiece by both squads.

That is probably the saltiest I have ever been when it comes to the unfair Texas-teams playoff matchups. Trinity's defense was probably the best in the program's history and #2 overall in D3 that year. Their offense was also very good, but it was Tucker Horn's first year as a starter and they couldn't get anything going against a great UMHB front.

After Trinity, UMHB steamrolled through the playoffs and put up 42 against #13 defense BSC, 49 against #12 defense Linfield, 24 against #22 defense UW-Whitewater, and 57 against Defending Champ North Central in the national championship. I know most people know all of this since the game was fairly recent, but I thank you for bringing up this painful topic to allow me to vent some more.

The Texas Sub Bracket is not fun but what makes it worst is it is usually followed by the Island School/ best of the West Region bracket.

Lets say Trinity beat UMHB that year, their prize, getting to play Birmingham Southern again. After that it was going to be Linfield or St. Johns who were the #1 and #3 in Region 6 followed by UWW the #2, all for the right to play the reigning national champion.