FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[olddog]

I like you Olddog but you're a little out of pocket here with Pat.

Pat has traveled all over the country watching and supporting D3 football and other sports for well over 25 years.

His vast knowledge on the sport nationally FAR exceeds yours and I don't say this to throw shade at you.

This is not life or death just fun no worries, the Pioneer Conf is better than D3 (not a lot but just more depth)...I have seen both in the last 6 years.

[10Freeway]

Any win is a good win. UR still has major issues if they can only score 17 points against a bad CMS team. Still saw some major effort lack of effort multiple times on offense. Offense is predictable just as years past. Let's get a homecoming win this weekend Bulldogs.

[Pat Coleman]

Regardless, the Top 25 voters were right to drop Whitworth, which is what the original discussion around the Pioneer Conference was about.

[olddog]

Pat, Based on UR kicking their rears, my point was the team WW played was better than an average D3 team. Still my point, Pioneer is better than west coast D3. Losing to a Pioneer team should not hurt you as much as a D3 team.

[DannyG]

Hey, Im a current college student and former d3 football player (I quit the team my sophomore year to focus on other things). Whenever I was at my schools football games I'd wonder how we match up vs the team we are playing. I made a website called d3lines.com that gives every d3 team a spread vs their opponents. You obviously cant bet on it and it's just for entertainment purposes but I thought I'd share incase anyone else found it interesting. Lines are a good general ballpark but not the sharpest things in the world

[SoCalLance]

This week is going to tell a lot about the conference. The current leaders for both the sun and surf play this weekend based off current standings. 1's being Cal Lu and Chapman. 2's being Redlands and PP. The 3's being La Verne and CMS.


All three home teams looks to be playing homecoming games this weekend. Not sure of the homecoming atmosphere over at CMS but Cal Lu and Redlands will bring better crowds and uplifted energy, which will keep the games close.

(Home) Cal Lu - 17 / Chapman 27
(Home) Redlands - 20 / PP -21 (If Russo plays this goes to 31)
(Home) CMS - 29 / La Verne - 7

[Dr. Doolittle]

Three games yesterday in SCIAC and three close games that should have been blow outs.  La Verne made it a game with a week CMS.  Redlands let PP come back and almost pull off a comeback and Chapman should have won by 21.  SCIAC will likely send Chapman to playoff to get smashed in the first round. 

[that guy 31]

Three games yesterday in SCIAC and three close games that should have been blow outs.  La Verne made it a game with a week CMS.  Redlands let PP come back and almost pull off a comeback and Chapman should have won by 21.  SCIAC will likely send Chapman to playoff to get smashed in the first round. 

Yeah, it looks like the conference has fallen back to Laverne. They are now able to compete.

Does anyone know the division tie-breaker if Redlands and CLU end up with the same record and split their head-to-head games? Seems like a big deal since one of them will get to play for a playoff spot and the other would be wasting its last week preparing for a meaningless game. CLU could handle business and win it themselves but Redlands is playing much better since the QB switch and I have a feeling they're going to get it done.

[MonroviaCat]

Three games yesterday in SCIAC and three close games that should have been blow outs.  La Verne made it a game with a week CMS.  Redlands let PP come back and almost pull off a comeback and Chapman should have won by 21.  SCIAC will likely send Chapman to playoff to get smashed in the first round. 

Yeah, it looks like the conference has fallen back to Laverne. They are now able to compete.

Does anyone know the division tie-breaker if Redlands and CLU end up with the same record and split their head-to-head games? Seems like a big deal since one of them will get to play for a playoff spot and the other would be wasting its last week preparing for a meaningless game. CLU could handle business and win it themselves but Redlands is playing much better since the QB switch and I have a feeling they're going to get it done.

I know the conference tie breaker (in the event of a three way) was the Rose Bowl rule but not sure if the same would apply to the division.  I'd assume though, if it's a two-way tie then head-to-head settles it (and only the "conference" head-to-head game would count <?>)....

[olddog]

UR/Hens Recap


The offense including coaches better have bought the defense all the root beer they can drink Saturday night. Joey Mariani is the defensive coordinator; he has been at UR since 2007. His defense has been the most consistent defense in the conference the last 10 years, even when UR had a .500 season under Maynard, the defense was tough. One of the most interesting things he does, keeps it simple and does not over complicate things. He tries to take away a couple things your offense does well and then just tells his team to tackle. He is not afraid to make adjustments mid game, changing fronts, blitzes and coverages. Hats off to you coach for keeping UR in the game for the last two victories. Good and Staff better take you to Saverinos this week. On the post-game show with the best broadcasters in the SCIAC Mitch McClean and Brett Malak, Coach kept it all positive, which would be tough for me. Coach M is my MVP the last two weeks.

UR defense gave up less than 200 yards and almost lost. 4 interceptions, negative running yards -22, two picks gave the offense very short
fields. Two field goals are all we got. We should have been up 20+ at half.

Our offense, now I will say we tried to establish the run game and we need to continue too. However, since every game will be low scoring, we cannot fumble. I have never seen a team fumble twice inside the 10, giving the ball up deep in your zone is beyond a sin. Those boys better fertilize the grass today. No excuses in my book for the fumbles. On offense get our TEs to actually block...man

CLU has improved since they beat UR, so UR if you don't want it to be a long day against the Regals, you cannot turn it over.  I have the Regals a 9-point favorite.

PS...Pat I guess the D3 pollsters got it wrong having LF in the top 20, given the thumping sub par WW put on LF last Saturday.  Hum ?

[Pat Coleman]

Yep -- get this -- sometimes pollsters are wrong. Not sure that helps your Frontier Conference argument, though.

[10Freeway]

Same old story for UR.  Head Coach complained for years about having to be the HC and OC, so the school ponies up and gets him an OC.  What happens, an even worse offense is on the field.  Coach Mariani must be steaming mad in meetings about having to have lights out games every week to keep the team in the games. 

[NWC50]

Three games yesterday in SCIAC and three close games that should have been blow outs.  La Verne made it a game with a week CMS.  Redlands let PP come back and almost pull off a comeback and Chapman should have won by 21.  SCIAC will likely send Chapman to playoff to get smashed in the first round. 

Yeah, it looks like the conference has fallen back to Laverne. They are now able to compete.

Does anyone know the division tie-breaker if Redlands and CLU end up with the same record and split their head-to-head games? Seems like a big deal since one of them will get to play for a playoff spot and the other would be wasting its last week preparing for a meaningless game. CLU could handle business and win it themselves but Redlands is playing much better since the QB switch and I have a feeling they're going to get it done.

I've read comment after comment about how bad La Verne is and most of the time, it's warranted.  But with a new coaching staff that started late, how come no one on this site can give them credit when they put a good game together?  Every game since Chapman, the defense has improved.  Their last 3 games they have only given up 34, 23, 22 in OT.  Against CLU, they gave up a go ahead touchdown with 56 seconds left. The comments were, we saw CLU true colors. How about giving La Verne the credit of getting better week by week with the new staff. This past week, the were up on CMS in the 4th quarter 16-6, with their backup QB in the game and CMS hit a FG as time expired to force OT. Then in OT, La Verne settled for a field goal after the refs, instead of giving La Verne a 1st and goal at the 2, for a pass interference in the end zone, marked off 15 and gave them the ball at the 10. If this league is every going to thrive, all teams need to improve, but it never helps when the bottom teams never get credit when they improve.

[olddog]

Yep -- get this -- sometimes pollsters are wrong. Not sure that helps your Frontier Conference argument, though.

come on, its just FB ...just having fun. The irony is that conference is down a bit just like SCIAC and NWC...

[wildcat11]

PS...Pat I guess the D3 pollsters got it wrong having LF in the top 20, given the thumping sub par WW put on LF last Saturday.  Hum ?

Never should have been in the top 25 or receiving votes to begin with this year but you have such a deep history of being a top 25/15 program than voters will give programs the benefit of the doubt.  I don't fault voters for that.