WBB: Landmark Conference

[Tim the Enchanter]

All four have been having strong senior seasons. Last month in a win against Villa Maria, Malloy had a line of 27 points (out of a team 48), 13 rebounds, 6 blocks and 5 steals. 

https://www.archmereacademy.com/news-detail?pk=1602318

Excited for this incoming class!

[Great Day to be a Royal]

There was a really nice article written about the Palestra several years ago in the NY Times.
It spoke of all the little secretive stairways behind the walls & how the administration was torn between keeping it in its historical condition vs. remodeling.
The architectural firm for the Palestra also designed Cameron Indoor Stadium at Duke as well as numerous other buildings on the Blue Devil campus.

Lady Royals remain # 2 again in this weeks poll but they have lost 3 first place votes back to NYU since Week 4.
And finally, somewhere in Wisconsin a lone holdout refuses to budge on their belief that the real # 1 team is Oshkosh...by gosh. 

I saw a projected bracket last night having UW-Oshkosh as the number 1 overall, pushing the Royals to 3

[saratoga]

Anyone can make a mock bracket for shi*# & giggles.
However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.
Lots of moving parts between now & the final conference playoff games but if things hold true to form & the  Lady Royals keep on winning, the bracketing will reflect their overall record & strong SOS & NPI.
They'll be fine.
Again...lots of tough games between now & Selection Monday.

[Pat Coleman]

However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.

If the season were to end today, UW-Oshkosh absolutely would be the No. 1 seed overall.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb/

It's literally based on the NPI and today UWO is No. 1 in NPI.

But, yes, it does not end today so we'll see.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.

If the season were to end today, UW-Oshkosh absolutely would be the No. 1 seed overall.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb/

It's literally based on the NPI and today UWO is No. 1 in NPI.

But, yes, it does not end today so we'll see.

And, if the season ended today, they'd be on the road the first weekend of the tournament, because the men would also be in line to host and MBB has preference this year.

[NEPAFAN]

And NYU would be the 14th seed?

[Augie2020]

However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.

If the season were to end today, UW-Oshkosh absolutely would be the No. 1 seed overall.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb/

It's literally based on the NPI and today UWO is No. 1 in NPI.

But, yes, it does not end today so we'll see.

Yes and NYU is 14th so they would not even be in the top 4 but people have them there.  So take it all with a grain of salt

[Augie2020]

However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.

If the season were to end today, UW-Oshkosh absolutely would be the No. 1 seed overall.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb/

It's literally based on the NPI and today UWO is No. 1 in NPI.

But, yes, it does not end today so we'll see.

And, if the season ended today, they'd be on the road the first weekend of the tournament, because the men would also be in line to host and MBB has preference this year.

So a team that is not getting love from these same voters are now chirping in on the men lmao 😆

[Augie2020]

However, if the season were to end today, I can assure you Oshkosh would in no way be the # 1 overall seed over NYU.

If the season were to end today, UW-Oshkosh absolutely would be the No. 1 seed overall.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb/

It's literally based on the NPI and today UWO is No. 1 in NPI.

But, yes, it does not end today so we'll see.

And, if the season ended today, they'd be on the road the first weekend of the tournament, because the men would also be in line to host and MBB has preference this year.

We have seen this before , the men had a great chance to host and was shipped up to Brockport . So don't be to sure

[saratoga]

In other words...all the voters except that 1 sitting in a fishing shed on a frozen lake somewhere in northwestern Wisconsin have been wrong all season.
Good for him or her. 
Let's let the schedules play out & we'll check back in a month.

[Pat Coleman]

In other words...all the voters except that 1 sitting in a fishing shed on a frozen lake somewhere in northwestern Wisconsin have been wrong all season.

NPI isn't a replacement for a human ranking, no.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

In other words...all the voters except that 1 sitting in a fishing shed on a frozen lake somewhere in northwestern Wisconsin have been wrong all season.
Good for him or her. 
Let's let the schedules play out & we'll check back in a month.

NPI just ranks your performance against your schedule.  It is not in any way determinative of strength of the team.

[Augie2020]

In other words...all the voters except that 1 sitting in a fishing shed on a frozen lake somewhere in northwestern Wisconsin have been wrong all season.
Good for him or her. 
Let's let the schedules play out & we'll check back in a month.

NPI just ranks your performance against your schedule.  It is not in any way determinative of strength of the team.

But the NCAA uses it to seed teams!!

[scottiedawg]

It's the age-old question of what is more important to you? The team that IS the best team or the team that performed the best?

Let's say we KNOW that Team Tiger is the 45th best team in the nation and that Team Giraffe is the 50th best team in the nation.

They play the exact same strength of schedule.

Team Giraffe wins 2 more games because of any number of factors (randomness, better late game ability, etc).

Team Tiger is the 45th best team because overall, in the games they won, they beat teams by a larger point margin than Team Giraffe.


Which team do you want to REWARD by putting them in the NCAA Tournament?   

There's no "right" answer.

I think NPI is a great system because it allows for different Win-Loss records against different Strengths of Schedule to all have a chance to play themselves in the tournament. But at the end of the day it wants teams to win games.

A system that is more focused on identifying the "best-performing teams aside from win-loss by looking at underlying point diffs and stuff" (e.g. Massey) is another option for selecting teams into the NCAA Tournament and seeding them.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

In other words...all the voters except that 1 sitting in a fishing shed on a frozen lake somewhere in northwestern Wisconsin have been wrong all season.
Good for him or her. 
Let's let the schedules play out & we'll check back in a month.

NPI just ranks your performance against your schedule.  It is not in any way determinative of strength of the team.

But the NCAA uses it to seed teams!!

Yeah.  Teams get seeded relative to how they've done against their own schedule.  If it's a weak schedule, the quality of the team itself doesn't get recognized - which is kinda fair.  Hope had this issue while they were the dominant team and they've changed their non-conference approach drastically since then.  NYU will shoot up the NPI if they run through a UAA schedule unscathed (they jumped three spots just with last night's win) - and power conference teams are always going to have an advantage.

We'll also see big jumps as lower valued wins come off the books for the top teams, which is starting to happen now.