WBB: Landmark Conference

[saratoga]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

[scottiedawg]

Let's compare schedule see how many top 60 teams did Oshkosh, W&l and Denison play go ahead I will wait

Top 60 NPI Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 7
Washington & Lee - 4
Scranton - 4
Denison - 3

Top 60 Massey Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 9
Washington & Lee - 3
Scranton - 2
Denison - 5

[scottiedawg]

I shudder to think of the wailings of "not fair" when Scranton WBB is playing at Wayne, NJ or New Paltz, NY on March 6 & 7.

[scottiedawg]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

It totally does, which is why I think the NPI system and its Minimum Wins Threshold of 15 works quite well.

Unless you end up with a LOT of really bad teams on your schedule, or you get only 15-17 wins, you DO have some buffer to drop a few if some teams really regress.

The old system was so bad - it really put teams in conferences with terrible bottoms at a disadvantage (Landmark, Presidents, Michigan).  The way NPI is designed allows teams with drastically different conference sizes, setups, and strength distributions to more or less end up on the same footing.

[Augie2020]

Lmao Yeah as I picked Scranton to be my number one team. What a two face 🤣

[Augie2020]

Let's compare schedule see how many top 60 teams did Oshkosh, W&l and Denison play go ahead I will wait

Top 60 NPI Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 7
Washington & Lee - 4
Scranton - 4
Denison - 3

Top 60 Massey Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 9
Washington & Lee - 3
Scranton - 2
Denison - 5

Scranton had 5 and I named them

[saratoga]

scottiedawg:

It's all good.
Appreciate your time explaining the process again this year.
Unfortunately, just a lot of bad wins in the Landmark again this season that will take a little time to come off the board.

PS.
I hope the Lady Royals aren't sent to Wayne, NJ. as Wm. Patterson's gym is a dump.
New Paltz has some great restaurants so that would work. 

[Augie2020]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

It totally does, which is why I think the NPI system and its Minimum Wins Threshold of 15 works quite well.

Unless you end up with a LOT of really bad teams on your schedule, or you get only 15-17 wins, you DO have some buffer to drop a few if some teams really regress.

The old system was so bad - it really put teams in conferences with terrible bottoms at a disadvantage (Landmark, Presidents, Michigan).  The way NPI is designed allows teams with drastically different conference sizes, setups, and strength distributions to more or less end up on the same footing.

Let's compare schedule see how many top 60 teams did Oshkosh, W&l and Denison play go ahead I will wait

Top 60 NPI Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 7
Washington & Lee - 4
Scranton - 4
Denison - 3

Top 60 Massey Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 9
Washington & Lee - 3
Scranton - 2
Denison - 5

Scranton had 5 and I named them

Yeah massey is so great it has NYU #1 with a  208  sos .lol

[scottiedawg]

scottiedawg:

PS.
I hope the Lady Royals aren't sent to Wayne, NJ. as Wm. Patterson's gym is a dump.
New Paltz has some great restaurants so that would work. 

I would hope that if Scranton WBB end up as one of the 4 #1 seeds that they don't get the DeSales-treatment that NYU got a few years ago.  Just host the pod at the #8 or #9 and build the quadrant so that if Scranton WBB make it to the sweet sixteen they will host that.

[ronk]

Scott posted them. Denison ran up 1.347 ,Scranton .303 Oshkosh 1.758 for beating a team at 9-7 and ranked 65th in NPI also W&L .296

This was Denison's 16th win, which means they dropped their lowest win value and replaced it with this one.  NPI only counts wins that help you once you get past 15.  Same thing for Oshkosh.  Once Scranton gets to 16 (next game), they'll jump, too.

 Unfortunately, the next 2 anticipated victories(Wilkes, then Goucher) won't bump up the npi.

[Patrick Coleman]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

Who could have projected that Damaris Rodriguez would graduate?!

[Augie2020]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

Who could have projected that Damaris Rodriguez would graduate?!

Yes Coleman because one player makes a team! Cmon

[Augie2020]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

Who could have projected that Damaris Rodriguez would graduate?!

Yes Coleman because one player makes a team! Cmon

Hey Coleman are you the Person out in the shed on the lakes of Wisconsin voting for Oshkosh ?

[Augie2020]

Kind of sucks that when Ben scheduled NJCU 3 years ago, they were an NCAA tournament team.
Even 2 years ago they made it in.
However, last season & now they have just fallen off a cliff & nothing is gained by playing them.
Sometimes when you schedule in advance (like you should) for your non-conference games, things can end up like a box of chocolates.

Who could have projected that Damaris Rodriguez would graduate?!

Just to settle it did Scranton not clubber them even though they had her in the NCAA?

[Augie2020]

Let's compare schedule see how many top 60 teams did Oshkosh, W&l and Denison play go ahead I will wait

Top 60 NPI Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 7
Washington & Lee - 4
Scranton - 4
Denison - 3

Top 60 Massey Opponents So Far
UW-Oshkosh - 9
Washington & Lee - 3
Scranton - 2
Denison - 5