FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[tommiegun]

Johnnie_esq,

Agree with all your points.  I was expecting someone to mention Title IX.  I am only comparing SJU to U$T football spending and pointing out that football supports more male programs than U$T.  .  I'm willing to bet the Tomcats are putting more $$'s into their football program.  I wouldn't be surprised if Caruso is taking home 2X what John is.  If not now, soon.  They'll have to do that to keep him, in my opinion.

I had always assumed CSB-SJU was subject to title IX.  That's a massive advantage if they cared to use it more.  Forget St. Thomas going D-1, the Johnnies could make the switch much more easily.

They are two universities when it benefits them to be two; they are one when it benefits them to be one.  The best of all worlds, really.

I know you are tongue-in-cheek, but the above strategy works while you are small; but wouldn't on a larger scale.  But as of now, who could challenge the arrangement?  A CSB doesn't necessarily have standing in a legal sense to do it-- as she is not enrolled at SJU, and the costs involved would not be beneficial to the student.  However, when the stakes are higher, the economics for such a challenge begin to make sense. 

But the CSB/SJU status quo has its benefits for both sides of the Title IX argument. 

(As a disclaimer, CSB/SJU receives federal funding and therefore is subject to Title IX.  But because neither are co-educational institutions at the undergraduate level, their obligations are different than, say, any other MIAC school (save St. Kate's),)

If some lawyer were creative enough at CSB I'm sure they could massage the arrangement to create "standing." Classes together, shared use of facilities, etc.

I mean, if the Spirit Lake Indian Reservation thinks they have "standing" to sue the NCAA for their proposed sanctions against UND for continued use of the "Fighting Sioux" nickname, anything is possible.

True that; if you can get standing for potential water level increases on your beach of about 3 inches over 100 years, I'm sure a student at C$B or $JU could get standing for just about anything.

[DuffMan]

I just got around to reading yesterday's Johnnie article in the Star Trib.

Former football player Joe Mucha is helping raise money to give several Johnnies sports what they need, including new turf in Clemens Stadium and a domed facility that can be used by everyone.

When did this happen and where is this domed facility?

[GoldandBlueBU]

I just got around to reading yesterday's Johnnie article in the Star Trib.

Former football player Joe Mucha is helping raise money to give several Johnnies sports what they need, including new turf in Clemens Stadium and a domed facility that can be used by everyone.

When did this happen and where is this domed facility?

I guess I assumed it would be similar to the dome at Augburg's field over the winter.

[USTBench]

If some lawyer were creative enough at CSB I'm sure they could massage the arrangement to create "standing." Classes together, shared use of facilities, etc.

I mean, if the Spirit Lake Indian Reservation thinks they have "standing" to sue the NCAA for their proposed sanctions against UND for continued use of the "Fighting Sioux" nickname, anything is possible.

I told you once, I'm telling you again: DON'T GIVE 'EM ANY IDEAS. Next thing you know, the Bennies will be raiding Gags coffers to fund whatever it is they do over there at CSB.

Not positive, but I'm pretty sure it involves a lot of ice cream.

[sju56321]

Should be interesting this weekend-SJU v. STO. Probably the most important game for SJU-as the season has unfolded-as it provides a small clue as to whether this team will have an easier chance to get back on track for next year.

[faunch]

I just got around to reading yesterday's Johnnie article in the Star Trib.

Former football player Joe Mucha is helping raise money to give several Johnnies sports what they need, including new turf in Clemens Stadium and a domed facility that can be used by everyone.

When did this happen and where is this domed facility?

Old news Duff....where have you been?     I believe the location of the dome and new turf field will be the old football practice field.  In a couple years SJU will have two turf football surfaces and a artificial baseball surface. 
I've heard that U$T is looking at the Ford truck plant property in Highland as a site for their D1 football complex. 

http://www.gojohnnies.com/sports/2009/5/26/BASEBALL_0526094723.aspx?path=baseball
**NEW SJU ATHLETIC FACILITY CAMPAIGN**
SJU is currently involved in a campaign to enhance its athletic facilities, including a facelift of the Johnnies' baseball facilities. The multi-million dollar upgrades include installment of an artificial grass surface, renovation of the dugouts and construction of a grandstand that will include bathrooms, concessions and a press box.

The campaign's other upgrades include the installment of another artificial-grass surface for a seasonal dome, lights in Clemens Stadium, new tennis courts, a pedestrian tunnel linking the Warner Palestra with the lower athletic fields, and expansions to the athletic training room and fitness center, among others.

Also check out.
http://csbsjurecord.com/2011/05/athletic-facilities-slated-for-expansion/

[DuffMan]

Should be interesting this weekend-SJU v. STO. Probably the most important game for SJU-as the season has unfolded-as it provides a small clue as to whether this team will have an easier chance to get back on track for next year.

Agreed!  Unfortunately, I will be about 5 miles from Clemens Stadium, but family obligations prevent me from going to the game 

[DuffMan]

Old news Duff....where have you been?    

Ah, I heard about that, but I interpreted the article as these things were already in place.

[USTBench]

I just got around to reading yesterday's Johnnie article in the Star Trib.

Former football player Joe Mucha is helping raise money to give several Johnnies sports what they need, including new turf in Clemens Stadium and a domed facility that can be used by everyone.

When did this happen and where is this domed facility?

Old news Duff....where have you been?     I believe the location of the dome and new turf field will be the old football practice field.  In a couple years SJU will have two turf football surfaces and a artificial baseball surface. 
I've heard that U$T is looking at the Ford truck plant property in Highland as a site for their D1 football complex. 

http://www.gojohnnies.com/sports/2009/5/26/BASEBALL_0526094723.aspx?path=baseball
**NEW SJU ATHLETIC FACILITY CAMPAIGN**
SJU is currently involved in a campaign to enhance its athletic facilities, including a facelift of the Johnnies' baseball facilities. The multi-million dollar upgrades include installment of an artificial grass surface, renovation of the dugouts and construction of a grandstand that will include bathrooms, concessions and a press box.

The campaign's other upgrades include the installment of another artificial-grass surface for a seasonal dome, lights in Clemens Stadium, new tennis courts, a pedestrian tunnel linking the Warner Palestra with the lower athletic fields, and expansions to the athletic training room and fitness center, among others.

Also check out.
http://csbsjurecord.com/2011/05/athletic-facilities-slated-for-expansion/

Typical $JU, throwing dollars around for facility improvements. So antithetical to the D3 spirit, I'm ashamed for your school. 

[DuffMan]

I sometimes forget just how exceptionally beautiful SJU's campus is.  I'll take that over the "culture" that U$T's campus may offer!

[desertcat1]

DuffMan,

I have to agree with you..  Having been to both for playoff games CollegeVille beats Downtown
" Minne so ta"  hands down.

Although the Cats are still looking for that first win in Minne So Ta.... Maybe if we can hang on to the ball inside the 5 this could be the year?
go Cats
Go big D

[tommiegun]

Alright, rankings are out and here is my too-early playoff projection for the west:

1. U$T
8. CSC

4. IIAC (Dubuque)
5. St. Olaf

3. Cal Lutheran
6. Redlands

2. Linfield
7. Monmouth

2 flights if it goes chalk. 3 if things get nutty.  I could also potentially see a 1 loss Lewis & Clark make this an unheard of 4 left-coast team bracket (1 min, 2 max flights).

[DuffMan]

4. IIAC (Dubuque)
5. St. Olaf

SOC won't win out.

[SagatagSam]

Typical $JU, throwing dollars around for facility improvements. So antithetical to the D3 spirit, I'm ashamed for your school. 

It isn't exactly your typical U$T briefcase full of money, but we make due:

It's not the size of the sword, but rather how you handle it. 

[AO]

Alright, rankings are out and here is my too-early playoff projection for the west:

1. U$T
8. CSC

CSC=College of Scholastica College?
Maybe Chadron State College has been moved to D3?